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* ... that '''[[Palomo]]''' (''pictured'') volcano features a 10 kilometres (6.2&amp;amp;nbsp;mi) long glacier and that a geologist named a secondary summit after his son, hoping that one day he would get to know the mountains?  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[http://biblioteca.sernageomin.cl/opac/DataFiles/14905_v3_pp_124_127.pdf por otra parte, hacia el sur destaca el glaciar Universidad, de unos 10 km de  longitud] and [http://www.andeangeology.cl/index.php/revista1/article/view/V6n2-a04/ El autor propone esta denominacion para este volcan, en atencion a su hijo Andres, en la esperanza de que pueda, algun dia, conocer tambien la cordillera]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Mary M. Crawford|Mary M. Crawford]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;5x expanded by [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]]). Self-nominated at 19:39, 28 April 2017 (UTC).&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] The main issue with this nomination is clearly the hook itself. Two hooks have been merged into one, and the first part about the glacier has nothing to do with the latter part about the secondary summit, so it comes off as disjointed. I would recommend that you remove the first part about the glacier because the second half is more interesting, so it reads as something like &amp;quot;... that a geologist named a secondary summit of '''[[Palomo]]''' (''pictured'') volcano after his son, hoping that one day he would get to know the mountains?&amp;quot; Also, the image is not used in the article (which would also need a caption), nor has the nominator satisfied the QPQ (reviewing another DYK nomination). Other than those things, the hook is cited in line in the article, but I would recommend that Andrès be spelled consistently with an è throughout the article. The article itself has been 5x expanded recently enough and is well-cited.--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:white;color:&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Juhachi|'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;十&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Juhachi|'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;八&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;''']]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:{{ping|Juhachi}} I'll added the QPQ. I'll admit, I wasn't myself certain about which factoid may be more interesting so I just kind of doubled them up. So perhaps this one would work (also replacing &amp;quot;summit&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;vent&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;mountains&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;range&amp;quot; - which is what &amp;quot;cordillera&amp;quot; is usually translated to - as more accurate)? Also, for the image, the hook picture is cropped from the article image. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 16:37, 9 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''ALT1''': ... that a geologist named a secondary vent of '''[[Palomo]]''' volcano (''pictured'') after his son, hoping that one day he would get to know the mountain range?&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] The ALT1 hook looks good, and thank you for adding the QPQ. However, the cropped image is still technically not used in the article itself. Indeed, why is the much larger view of the Andes mountain range used in the article when you can't even identify Palomo in it without the aid of the crop? I know the caption says it's in the upper left portion, but if you don't know what you're looking for, it's next to impossible to discern. Are there really no other free images of this volcano? If not, I would recommend just using the cropped image in the article, which I see is already being done on three other wikis. And of course, said image still needs a caption in this nomination.--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:white;color:&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Juhachi|'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;十&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Juhachi|'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;八&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;''']]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:09, 9 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:*: {{ping|Juhachi}} Added caption and changed image. Obscure Andean volcanoes are not the sort of thing where free images are readily forthcoming. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 15:11, 10 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::* [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] Everything looks good to go now for '''ALT1'''. Thank you for your time and the various corrections.--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:white;color:&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Juhachi|'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;十&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Juhachi|'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;八&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;''']]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] I find the hook rather trivial, being about the future of the son of a non-notable geologist. Is there anything more about the 1847 flood that might provide an interesting hook? [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 06:02, 15 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*: {{ping|Cwmhiraeth}} I don't think so unless someone familiar with Chilean history of that time has an idea. I'd argue that the hook was more centered on the peculiar etymology rather than about the person specifically. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 15:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''ALT2''': ... that the secondary vent of the volcano '''[[Palomo]]''' (''pictured'') was named after the son of the geologist who explored it? [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 18:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*: To me that seems an idea boring-er than ALT1. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 18:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::*[[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] Well, I don't want to hold it up so I will restore Juhachi's tick, but I think &amp;quot;hoping that one day he would get to know the mountain range&amp;quot; is so trivial and unencyclopedic. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 20:16, 15 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Both are rather, possibly equally, trivial, but ALT2 is better written. ALT1 reworded might be okay, but all things considered, the better writing of ALT2 should be preferred. --[[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11|2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11|talk]]) 23:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was thinking that such a ''personal'' motive in etymology might be interesting. Perhaps &amp;quot;expressing the hope&amp;quot; is better writing than the current &amp;quot;hoping&amp;quot; of ALT1? [[User:JoJo Eumerus mobile|JoJo Eumerus mobile]] ([[User talk:JoJo Eumerus mobile|talk]]) 12:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It falls flat to me. &amp;quot;He had a thought that someone else might like the mountain.&amp;quot; It's not science, and, so what, how old is his son, has he been there yet? Nothing. --[[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8503:4467:31C4:7809:BB3F:FBC0|2601:648:8503:4467:31C4:7809:BB3F:FBC0]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8503:4467:31C4:7809:BB3F:FBC0|talk]]) 14:41, 16 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. 'sides, hooks do not need to be ''scientific''. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 16:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think the so what triviality of it far outstrips the lack of science. Someone named something after their child, ooh, aah. They thought someone might like a mountain, oh, cool. Yawn me to death. --[[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8503:4467:B9B8:B797:2E86:AC8D|2601:648:8503:4467:B9B8:B797:2E86:AC8D]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8503:4467:B9B8:B797:2E86:AC8D|talk]]) 15:07, 29 May 2017 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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