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Template:Did you know nominations/Assignment: Venezuela

2019-06-20T21:18:41Z

47.185.218.146: +re

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* ... that 1956 propaganda film '''''[[Assignment: Venezuela]]''''' tries to convince prospective American workers both that Venezuela is like a modern US city and to be sympathetic to the differences in Venezuelan culture? <small>Source: two, in article under Analysis</small>
*'''ALT1''' ... that [[Exxon]]'s 1956 propaganda film '''''[[Assignment: Venezuela]]''''' sought to convince American oil workers that [[Venezuela]], then controlled by the anti-capitalist military dictatorship of [[Marcos Pérez Jiménez]], had embraced the American way of life?
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Gilberto García Mena|Gilberto García Mena]]
<small>Created by [[User:Kingsif|Kingsif]] ([[User talk:Kingsif|talk]]). Self-nominated at 02:13, 18 June 2019 (UTC).</small>


:*The article is a nice read, and appears well-sourced and worded. Can't think of much to improve, although I admit as a film buff, I'd be intrigued by more detail about the production, which companies aired it, who exactly funded and produced the film, and such things. I think the hook is a nice start but strained in wording. For example, it is strange to compare a nation to a city. Brainstorming, here are some alternatives:
::*"that Exxon's 1956 propaganda film ''Assignment: Venezuela'' sought to convince American oil workers that Venezuela, then controlled by the anti-capitalist military dictatorship of Marcos Perez Jimenez, had embraced the American way of life?"
::*"that the 1956 propaganda film ''Assignment: Venezuela'' was shown to American oil workers to entice them to move to Venezuela?"
::*'"that to convince Americans to move to Venezuela as workers in the country's burgeoning oil industry, the 1956 propaganda film ''Assignment: Venezuela'' focused on the similarities between America and Venezuela?"
::*"that the 1956 propaganda film ''Assignment: Venezuela'', shown to American oil workers to convince them to move to Venezuela, was later spoofed by ''Mystery Science Theater 3000''?"
[[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 18:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:::I'll try my best to find some more research, but most mentions just describe its purpose. From the hook suggestions, I've now added an alt. [[User:Kingsif|Kingsif]] ([[User talk:Kingsif|talk]]) 18:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] I also checked online and you're right in that it seems most coverage doesn't go in depth into production details. Making due with what is more easily available, I think the article checks out, and is well formatted and neutral in layout and tone. If it garners more views, maybe editors will uncover more material to work with. I also quite like the ALT1 hook, as I think it helps encapsulate the inherent absurdity and incongruity of the propaganda effort, a point which the ''Mystery Science Theater'' spoof expounds on in the page itself. For the hook's wording, I would worry that Exxon isn't an exact approximation for the Creole subsidiary at the time, but Exxon is Exxon, and I think it doesn't mislead readers to not be technically correct in this case. Explaining the subsidiary status would just take up some of the word count for the hook without adding anything relevant to the hook itself. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 21:18, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Assignment: Venezuela

2019-06-20T18:34:01Z

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Template:Did you know nominations/Dioryctria sylvestrella

2019-06-19T03:04:39Z

47.185.218.146: +re

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*<s> ... that the '''[[Dioryctria sylvestrella|new pine knot-horn]]''' is one of the most important pests of [[Pine|pine tree]] plantations?</s>
*'''ALT1''' ... that the '''[[Dioryctria sylvestrella|new pine knot-horn]]''' is an important pest of [[Pine|pine tree]] plantations?
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/James Fraser (surgeon)|James Fraser (surgeon)]]
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]). Self-nominated at 06:40, 8 June 2019 (UTC).</small>


:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] 5x expanded, in time, long enough, sourced, no apparent copyvios, QPQ done. {{u|Cwmhiraeth}}, the hook generally accords with the source (it "is one of the important pests of pine plantations"), although I think "most" should be dropped. What is the source for the line in the article that "[[Pinus pinaster|maritime pine]] [is] an important plantation crop of the Mediterranean region"? --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 19:09, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Usernameunique}} Thank you for the review. I have added a reference to the article and substituted ALT1 for the original hook. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 05:08, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] All set now. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 05:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
*Concerning word choice in the lead, I wonder if a less ambiguous word than "important" would help give readers more clarity. Because the way it is worded, it is almost like infestations are a good thing, which I would very much imagine they are not. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 03:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Mrinalini Devi

2019-06-17T23:52:45Z

47.185.218.146: +re

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* ... that unlike traditional marriages, '''[[Mrinalini Devi]]''' married [[Rabindranath Tagore]] at the groom's house?
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Claude Cadart]]
<small>Created by [[User:Royroydeb|Royroydeb]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]). Self-nominated at 05:22, 1 June 2019 (UTC).</small>


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|comments = Excellent article and addition to women in wikipedia. Could you bring at least one English language source? As to the hook, it seems to me that it's more interesting that she was just nine years old when they married. QPQ still to do.
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:{{ping|Onceinawhile}} Frankly, Tagore is not hardly celebrated outside the [[Bengal]] region, so hardly is there any other language source with much information. I could only find these ([https://www.deccanherald.com/specials/tagore-life-rich-art-and-culture-668582.html 1] [https://www.dailypioneer.com/2013/vivacity/tagore-woman-and-her-tales.html 2] [http://movies.ndtv.com/television/the-life-of-tagores-wife-mrinalini-devi-coming-to-tv-screens-756545 3]). Also during those days, marrying at 9 was not uncommon. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 15:35, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
::How about: {{cite book|chapter=Chapter 7: Marriage|last=Sahu|first=Monideepa|title=Rabindranath Tagore: Puffin Lives|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=GMw0RVaoBtUC&pg=PT50|date=15 May 2013|publisher=Penguin Books Limited|isbn=978-81-8475-991-4}}
::[[User:Onceinawhile|Onceinawhile]] ([[User talk:Onceinawhile|talk]]) 15:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:::How about a hook relating to Mrinalini’s views on [[Kadambari Devi]]. That is sure to get some clicks! [[User:Onceinawhile|Onceinawhile]] ([[User talk:Onceinawhile|talk]]) 15:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] The article is need of a copyedit before this can be promoted. There are many awkward grammatical constructions throughout the article. In addition, the hook, while it has potential, lacks context for non-Indian readers. For example, it states "unlike traditional marriages". How are readers supposed to know what a traditional Indian marriage is like? The hook does not make sense without context. Failing that, we can go with Onceinawhile's suggestion:
::'''ALT1''' ... that [[Rabindranath Tagore]] married his wife '''[[Mrinalini Devi]]''' when she was nine years old and he was twenty-two?
::'''ALT1a''' ... that the Indian writer and Nobel laureate [[Rabindranath Tagore]] married his wife '''[[Mrinalini Devi]]''' when she was nine years old and he was twenty-two?
:[[User:Narutolovehinata5|Narutolovehinata5]] <sup>[[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|t]][[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|c]][[WP:CSD|csd]][[Special:Newpages|new]]</sup> 15:34, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
*The hook provides no context, and therefore honestly isn't very interesting. Who are the people getting married, why are they important? Are they breaking traditions from 800 years ago, or last year? Are they in India, or living in another country at the time? Also, I do find it odd their age at marriage is not mentioned. Tradition in certain places and times or not, child marriage is obviously and invariably horrible, and if their marriage was, for some reason, not horrible (they held off on intimacy until she was old enough to consent despite the grooming, etc.), then perhaps the article and hook should reflect that. Otherwise, it seems the hook is hiding the real story, i.e. horror story, for no particular reason other than a dedication to the banal. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 23:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert E. Lee on Traveller

2019-06-16T23:04:46Z

47.185.218.146: +re

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* ... that at the unveiling of [[Alexander Phimister Proctor]]'s '''[[Robert E. Lee on Traveller|statue of Robert E. Lee]]''' (''pictured'') in 1936, President [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] called Lee "one of our greatest American gentlemen"?[https://www.dallasnews.com/news/from-the-archives/2017/09/06/flashback-fdr-unveiled-robert-e-lee-statue-without-controversy-1936]
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<small>5x expanded by [[User:MagicatthemovieS|MagicatthemovieS]] ([[User talk:MagicatthemovieS|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC).</small>

*The push of the article has little to do with the FDR quote, which is only a piece of trivia in that context. I might recommend tweaking so that the reader understands a little about what makes this statue special or distinctive, instead of just another random park statue. City, or example, or mention the sculptor is notable or the year it was revealed, to provide at least a little context besides FDR's opinion of Lee. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 01:53, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|47.185.218.146}} How's the revision above?[[User:MagicatthemovieS|MagicatthemovieS]] ([[User talk:MagicatthemovieS|talk]]) 16:24, 16 June 2019 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
**Very much improved! [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 23:04, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Gao Xiaoxia

2019-06-16T22:56:38Z

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* ... that just before the US government banned Chinese students from returning home, '''[[Gao Xiaoxia]]''' abandoned her Ph.D. studies and left America on one of the last China-bound ships? <small>Source: [http://en.sjtu.edu.cn/spotlight/alumni-spotlight/da2009/xu-guangxian/ "American government passed an act to forbid Chinese students and scientists in America including Qian Xuesen to return the new Communist China. ... Gao Xiaoxia and he immediately decided to return to China even though she was just about to get her PhD. ... boarded the "General Gordon" cruise, which was the one of the last three cruises heading toward China right before the act was put into force."]</small>
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Suvorov Monument (Saint Petersburg)|Suvorov Square (Saint Petersburg)]] (second of two QPQs)
<small>Created by [[User:Mary Mark Ockerbloom|Mary Mark Ockerbloom]] ([[User talk:Mary Mark Ockerbloom|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) at 18:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC).</small>

*Needs the year she fled, for context. I assumed at first it was a reference to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1934, and was surprised to see it was a later much less publicized visa incident in the 1950s. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 22:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Gao Xiaoxia

2019-06-16T22:56:17Z

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* ... that just before the US government banned Chinese students from returning home, '''[[Gao Xiaoxia]]''' abandoned her Ph.D. studies and left America on one of the last China-bound ships? <small>Source: [http://en.sjtu.edu.cn/spotlight/alumni-spotlight/da2009/xu-guangxian/ "American government passed an act to forbid Chinese students and scientists in America including Qian Xuesen to return the new Communist China. ... Gao Xiaoxia and he immediately decided to return to China even though she was just about to get her PhD. ... boarded the "General Gordon" cruise, which was the one of the last three cruises heading toward China right before the act was put into force."]</small>
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Suvorov Monument (Saint Petersburg)|Suvorov Square (Saint Petersburg)]] (second of two QPQs)
<small>Created by [[User:Mary Mark Ockerbloom|Mary Mark Ockerbloom]] ([[User talk:Mary Mark Ockerbloom|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) at 18:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC).</small>

*Needs the year she was banned, for context. I assumed at first it was a reference to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1934, and was surprised to see it was a later much less publicized visa incident in the 1950s. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 22:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert E. Lee on Traveller

2019-06-16T01:53:25Z

47.185.218.146: +re

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* ... that at the unveiling of a '''[[Robert E. Lee on Traveller|statue of Robert E. Lee]]''', President [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] called Lee "one of our greatest American gentlemen"?[https://www.dallasnews.com/news/from-the-archives/2017/09/06/flashback-fdr-unveiled-robert-e-lee-statue-without-controversy-1936]
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<small>5x expanded by [[User:MagicatthemovieS|MagicatthemovieS]] ([[User talk:MagicatthemovieS|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC).</small>

*The push of the article has little to do with the FDR quote, which is only a piece of trivia in that context. I might recommend tweaking so that the reader understands a little about what makes this statue special or distinctive, instead of just another random park statue. City, or example, or mention the sculptor is notable or the year it was revealed, to provide at least a little context besides FDR's opinion of Lee. [[Special:Contributions/47.185.218.146|47.185.218.146]] ([[User talk:47.185.218.146|talk]]) 01:53, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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