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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]])&nbsp;05:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... that British Rail's '''[[ATP (British Rail)|ATP]]''' system was estimated to cost £11 million per life saved, more than the £4 million per life considered good value for money?  <small>Source: Harmer, 1995 - [https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14719862-100-safety-signals-set-at-danger/]</small>
 
* ... that British Rail's '''[[ATP (British Rail)|ATP]]''' system was estimated to cost £11 million per life saved, more than the £4 million per life considered good value for money?  <small>Source: Harmer, 1995 - [https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14719862-100-safety-signals-set-at-danger/]</small>
 
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:* ''Comment'': Haven't done this before, so please ping if I've messed anything up too much.
 
:* ''Comment'': Haven't done this before, so please ping if I've messed anything up too much.
 
<small>Created by [[User:Alex Noble|Alex Noble]] ([[User talk:Alex Noble|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Alex Noble|Alex Noble]] ([[User talk:Alex Noble|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC).</small>
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:* Am looking at this now; review to follow shortly (this evening/tomorrow).  I have some familiarity with the subject matter.  <span style="font-family: Helvetica;">[[User:Hassocks5489|<b style="color: #00BFFF;">Hassocks</b>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<span style="color: #228B22;">5489</span><span style="color: #C71585;"><small> (Floreat Hova!)</small></span>]]</span> 20:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:* Am looking at this now; review to follow shortly (this evening/tomorrow).  I have some familiarity with the subject matter.  <span style="font-family: Helvetica;">[[User:Hassocks5489|<b style="color: #00BFFF;">Hassocks</b>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<span style="color: #228B22;">5489</span><span style="color: #C71585;"><small> (Floreat Hova!)</small></span>]]</span> 20:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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**Broadly speaking, this looks ready for DYK, but later this evening <small>(I'm doing this on my lunchbreak)</small> I'll do full copyvio/close paraphrasing checking in the online sources and will confirm if OK.  <span style="font-family: Helvetica;">[[User:Hassocks5489|<b style="color: #00BFFF;">Hassocks</b>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<span style="color: #228B22;">5489</span><span style="color: #C71585;"><small> (Floreat Hova!)</small></span>]]</span> 13:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 
**Broadly speaking, this looks ready for DYK, but later this evening <small>(I'm doing this on my lunchbreak)</small> I'll do full copyvio/close paraphrasing checking in the online sources and will confirm if OK.  <span style="font-family: Helvetica;">[[User:Hassocks5489|<b style="color: #00BFFF;">Hassocks</b>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<span style="color: #228B22;">5489</span><span style="color: #C71585;"><small> (Floreat Hova!)</small></span>]]</span> 13:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
  
*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] No issues noted in subsequent checks; verified and ready to go.  <span style="font-family: Helvetica;">[[User:Hassocks5489|<b style="color: #00BFFF;">Hassocks</b>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<span style="color: #228B22;">5489</span><span style="color: #C71585;"><small> (Floreat Hova!)</small></span>]]</span> 21:20, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 05:39, 2 April 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

ATP (British Rail)

  • ... that British Rail's ATP system was estimated to cost £11 million per life saved, more than the £4 million per life considered good value for money? Source: Harmer, 1995 - [1]
  • Comment: Haven't done this before, so please ping if I've messed anything up too much.

Created by Alex Noble (talk). Self-nominated at 17:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Am looking at this now; review to follow shortly (this evening/tomorrow). I have some familiarity with the subject matter. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Review starting now, but must pause now and continue later today......
    • This is a new, non-stub article with in excess of 3kb of prose. (Quite a notable topic; I'm surprised no dedicated article for BR ATP existed, and Main Page exposure may well bring about further expansion and improvements.)
    • Refs are formatted correctly and sources are of high quality. I don't have to hand a copy of Gourvish (2002), the only offline source, but I am familiar with the book and its suitability as a source.
    • Work started on 8th March, so the nomination is on time.
    • The author has no DYK credits so far, so is exempt from QPQ reviewing requirements.
    • Prose quality is fine.
    • Minor nitpicks at this stage: apart from a few copyedits (hyphens, mostly), I would suggest a few more explanations of technical terms: perhaps spell out SPAD as well as linking, and mention that ACEC and GEC-GS are companies rather than e.g. technical standards (maybe link the second one to Alstom#GEC-Alsthom; not sure if the ?Canadian company ACEC has a WP article).
    • I'm happy with the hook in terms of interest, catchiness and accuracy. As per Hamer (1995), the supporting source: while BR and Railtrack initially estimated £14m per life saved, the Health and Safety Commission's review revised this to £11m per life saved, so it is appropriate to use the lower figure in the hook and article.
    • Broadly speaking, this looks ready for DYK, but later this evening (I'm doing this on my lunchbreak) I'll do full copyvio/close paraphrasing checking in the online sources and will confirm if OK. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)