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* ...<s> that European [[high jump]] champion '''[[Anne-Marie Colchen]]''' ''(pictured)'' later won a [[FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup|World Championship]] medal in [[women's basketball]]?</s>
  
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:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Mostly seems to check out, but some of the references appear to be wrong; for instance, the line "A loss to Chile in the final round meant the French women came third overall, taking the bronze medal behind the host nation and the American winners." is referenced to [http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/86490/pid2//sid/2917/tid/282/tid2//_/1953_World_Championship_for_Women/index.html Colchen's profile page], which doesn't contain any of that information. It would also be good to have a reference that explicitly states that she won a bronze medal. [[User:Number 57|<span style="color:orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color:green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color:blue;">7</span>]] 21:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
* ... that European [[high jump]] champion '''[[Anne-Marie Colchen]]''' (left) later won a [[FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup|World Championship]] medal in [[women's basketball]]?
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::{{ping|Number 57}} I've added a couple of cites to the line (one showing the group standings and another showing her bronze medal). I had to draw together some quite disparate bits of data and sourcing, given that I couldn't find any comprehensive articles on Colchen. I'm pretty sure that when she dies she'll get a full obituary – not for the moment though, 89 and still going strong! [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 22:19, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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:::{{ping|Sillyfolkboy}} Er, the cites you've added contradict what's in the claim ([http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/event/p/rid/360/sid/2917/tid/282/_/1953_World_Championship_for_Women/group-standing.html the table] shows France finishing second, not third). [[User:Number 57|<span style="color:orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color:green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color:blue;">7</span>]] 22:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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::::{{ping|Number 57}} The first table is the true final ranking, with Chile ranking ahead of France on the basis of the equal-win/loss-decider being who won in the match between the two teams, rather than the points differential (which is what the comparative analysis shows on the second table). As I said, not the easiest to put together this one! {{(:}} [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 22:32, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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:::::{{ping|Sillyfolkboy}} I'd recommend using another source like [http://archive.usab.com/womens/national/wwc_1953.html this] for the final standings. [[User:Number 57|<span style="color:orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color:green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color:blue;">7</span>]] 22:35, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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::::::{{ping|Number 57}} Normally I try to stick with an official source, but in this case the USA Basketball site is a lot less ambiguous than the FIBA one, so I've added it. Thanks! [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 22:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::[[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] Cheers, now good to go (AGFing that it all ties up, but it certainly seems so). Certainly an interesting article. Cheers, [[User:Number 57|<span style="color:orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color:green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color:blue;">7</span>]] 23:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
  
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::::::::[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Hook is awkwardly worded.  "later won" implies this was after something. After she became high jump champion?  After she ended her high jump career? Maybe tweak the hook for clarity. [[User:Maile66|— Maile ]] ([[User talk:Maile66|talk]]) 16:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::::{{ping|Maile66}} Pretty much both. It's a minor point so happy to rephrase to the following: [[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|SFB]] 22:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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[[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] Striking original hook in favor of slight rewording above.  Reticking this as good 2 go. [[User:Maile66|— Maile ]] ([[User talk:Maile66|talk]]) 22:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
  
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 13:15, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Anne-Marie Colchen

Anne-Marie Colchen (left)
Anne-Marie Colchen (left)

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self-nominated at 19:54, 1 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Mostly seems to check out, but some of the references appear to be wrong; for instance, the line "A loss to Chile in the final round meant the French women came third overall, taking the bronze medal behind the host nation and the American winners." is referenced to Colchen's profile page, which doesn't contain any of that information. It would also be good to have a reference that explicitly states that she won a bronze medal. Number 57 21:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ping I've added a couple of cites to the line (one showing the group standings and another showing her bronze medal). I had to draw together some quite disparate bits of data and sourcing, given that I couldn't find any comprehensive articles on Colchen. I'm pretty sure that when she dies she'll get a full obituary – not for the moment though, 89 and still going strong! SFB 22:19, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ping Er, the cites you've added contradict what's in the claim (the table shows France finishing second, not third). Number 57 22:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ping The first table is the true final ranking, with Chile ranking ahead of France on the basis of the equal-win/loss-decider being who won in the match between the two teams, rather than the points differential (which is what the comparative analysis shows on the second table). As I said, not the easiest to put together this one! Face-smile.svg SFB 22:32, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ping I'd recommend using another source like this for the final standings. Number 57 22:35, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ping Normally I try to stick with an official source, but in this case the USA Basketball site is a lot less ambiguous than the FIBA one, so I've added it. Thanks! SFB 22:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg Cheers, now good to go (AGFing that it all ties up, but it certainly seems so). Certainly an interesting article. Cheers, Number 57 23:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Hook is awkwardly worded. "later won" implies this was after something. After she became high jump champion? After she ended her high jump career? Maybe tweak the hook for clarity. — Maile (talk) 16:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Template:Ping Pretty much both. It's a minor point so happy to rephrase to the following: SFB 22:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Symbol voting keep.svg Striking original hook in favor of slight rewording above. Reticking this as good 2 go. — Maile (talk) 22:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)