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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify this page.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|this nomination's talk page]], [[Talk:{{SUBPAGENAME}}|the article's talk page]] or [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know]]), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. '''No further edits should be made to this page'''.'' | :''The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify this page.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|this nomination's talk page]], [[Talk:{{SUBPAGENAME}}|the article's talk page]] or [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know]]), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. '''No further edits should be made to this page'''.'' | ||
| − | The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User: | + | The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Alex Shih|Alex Shih]][[User_talk:Alex Shih|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 16:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)<br />}} |
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====Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University==== | ====Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University==== | ||
{{DYK nompage links|nompage=Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University|Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University}} | {{DYK nompage links|nompage=Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University|Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University}} | ||
| − | + | *... <s>that the foundation stone of '''[[Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University]]''' was laid by Dr. [[Manmohan Singh]], the Prime Minister of India, on 30 April 2005?</s> | |
| − | : | + | :* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Bat Out of Hell (TV series)]] |
<small>Created by [[User:Titodutta|Titodutta]] ([[User talk:Titodutta|talk]]), [[User:Dharmadhyaksha|Dharmadhyaksha]] ([[User talk:Dharmadhyaksha|talk]]), [[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] ([[User talk:Moonriddengirl|talk]]), [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Titodutta|Titodutta]] ([[User talk:Titodutta|talk]]) at 13:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC)</small>. | <small>Created by [[User:Titodutta|Titodutta]] ([[User talk:Titodutta|talk]]), [[User:Dharmadhyaksha|Dharmadhyaksha]] ([[User talk:Dharmadhyaksha|talk]]), [[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] ([[User talk:Moonriddengirl|talk]]), [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Titodutta|Titodutta]] ([[User talk:Titodutta|talk]]) at 13:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC)</small>. | ||
| + | :::*Sorry for editing an archived page. :) While I appreciate Titodutta's generosity here, I have to make absolutely clear that I did not create this page and have not contributed substantially to it. All I did was move it. I am uncomfortable being credited with work I do not deserve. For that reason, I decline. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 12:58, 18 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::*Apologies for editing this archived page from me too, but I have to say that all I did was add a notice to the temporary page. I appreciate the thought, but I shouldn't receive any credit for this DYK. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 14:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]]. Length, date and hokk reference are fine. No copy vio. Good to go.--'''[[User talk:Nvvchar|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#003366">Nvvchar</span>]]'''. 01:28, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | * [[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] I have pulled this one from prep 1 as I think the hook is substandard - politicians lay foundation stones of new buildings all the time, it's a commonplace occurrence. IMO a new hook should be found. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 15:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | |
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| + | :: A hook based on the "industry-academia linkage system" mentioned in the article would be one possible alt, though I haven't checked the sources for that statement in the article. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 16:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::Copyvio/paraphrasing issues that are not detected on the tools here, for whatever reason: | ||
| + | ::1) <u>Article:</u>"In early 2005 the State Government of Chhattisgarh decided to establish the University to ensure high-quality, systematic and effective education in the state related to engineering and technology subjects. The relevant act was passed in the Chhattisgarh state assembly on 21 January 2005. The foundation stone of the institution was laid by Prime Minister of India Dr. Manmohan Singh on 30 April 2005" | ||
| + | :::<u>Ref 1 source</u>: "The state government established the CSVTU through an Act passed by the Chhattisgarh assembly on January 21, 2005 to ensure systematic, efficient and quality education in engineering and technological subjects. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh laid the foundation stone of the university on April 30, 2005" | ||
| + | ::2)<u>Article</u>: "The University reserves 50 percent seats in postgraduate studies in courses like steel technique and material handling for the employees and children of the employees of Steel Authority of India" | ||
| + | :::<u>Ref 1 source:</u>"The state government would reserve 50 percent of the seats in postgraduate studies in certain courses such as steel technique and material handling for SAIL employees while a few seats would be reserved for SAIL employees' children in other courses. IANS" | ||
| + | :::[[User:Maile66|— Maile ]] ([[User talk:Maile66|talk]]) 19:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::::I have [[Wikipedia_talk:DYK#Hook_pull_off|reported it]]. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 21:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :::::The consensus there is that the article does indeed contain close paraphrasing that needs to be dealt with. Can you please fix it, and propose another hook? Thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 14:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::::* Rewriting of those two sentences has been attempted. | ||
| + | :::::**'''ALT1''' ... '''[[Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University]]''' affiliates more than 60 Engineering colleges and more 30 Polytechnics colleges in [[Chhattisgarh]], [[India]]? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 14:43, 14 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::::* Note on ALT1: The University affiliates almost 100 Engineering colleges. I think, this piece of information might be interesting. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 14:43, 14 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | * [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]]/[[User:Maile66|Maile]], can you please take a look at this now? §§[[User:Dharmadhyaksha|<font color = "red" >Dharmadhyaksha</font>]]§§ {[[User talk:Dharmadhyaksha|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Dharmadhyaksha|C]]} 07:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :: I'm not that keen on the proposed alt, I liked my own idea better, so perhaps I will propose an alt of my own. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 03:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | * They followed Gujarat University. Anything second is not interesting. Industry-academia linkage system is not a highly significant step too. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 18:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | * [[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Copyvio detector has flagged this article as a possible copyvio, see [http://toolserver.org/~earwig/copyvios?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Chhattisgarh_Swami_Vivekanand_Technical_University&url= this] report. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 16:15, 3 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | * [[WP:MIRROR]] <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 16:32, 3 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :: Is there some way it can be confirmed that this is a case of MIRROR rather than copyvio? [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 16:48, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :: Actually, a closer look at the article makes it pretty obvious it's a mirror. I'll run another check on this nomination next time I log on. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 17:45, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::* You can do these 1) click on "Read more" and see the full article. That's Wikipedia format. They have copied our whole article including references 2) See full article, right click>> View page source, find the word "Wikipedia", You'll get clues that content has been taken from Wikipedia. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 17:53, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| + | * [[File:Symbol redirect vote 4.svg|16px]] I have rewritten this article so it needs a new review. I have basically removed some redundant content, given it a copyedit and done my best to avoid close paraphrasing; however, there is a limit to the amount of changes that can be made when the sources contain only basic information. Per [[Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing#Creative_expression|Creative expression]] and [[WP:LIMITED]], ''facts'' cannot be copyrighted, only ''originality of expression'', and I see little in the sources that could be described as original expression - these are all just basic facts and I see little reason why those facts cannot simply be duplicated here. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 14:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| + | *[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] All issues seem to have been dealt with. Everything looks good to go. --[[User:Rushton2010|Rushton2010]] ([[User talk:Rushton2010|talk]]) 00:05, 16 August 2013 (UTC){{#if:yes|</div></noinclude>|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template talk:Did you know/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:Pending DYK nominations]][[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]]|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template:Did you know nominations/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]][[Category:Pending DYK nominations]]}}}}}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.--> | ||
Latest revision as of 14:13, 5 March 2018
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Alex ShihTalk 16:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University
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that the foundation stone of Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University was laid by Dr. Manmohan Singh, the Prime Minister of India, on 30 April 2005?
Created by Titodutta (talk), Dharmadhyaksha (talk), Moonriddengirl (talk), Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Titodutta (talk) at 13:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC).
- Sorry for editing an archived page. :) While I appreciate Titodutta's generosity here, I have to make absolutely clear that I did not create this page and have not contributed substantially to it. All I did was move it. I am uncomfortable being credited with work I do not deserve. For that reason, I decline. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:58, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Apologies for editing this archived page from me too, but I have to say that all I did was add a notice to the temporary page. I appreciate the thought, but I shouldn't receive any credit for this DYK. Voceditenore (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
. Length, date and hokk reference are fine. No copy vio. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 01:28, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
I have pulled this one from prep 1 as I think the hook is substandard - politicians lay foundation stones of new buildings all the time, it's a commonplace occurrence. IMO a new hook should be found. Gatoclass (talk) 15:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- A hook based on the "industry-academia linkage system" mentioned in the article would be one possible alt, though I haven't checked the sources for that statement in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 16:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Copyvio/paraphrasing issues that are not detected on the tools here, for whatever reason:
- 1) Article:"In early 2005 the State Government of Chhattisgarh decided to establish the University to ensure high-quality, systematic and effective education in the state related to engineering and technology subjects. The relevant act was passed in the Chhattisgarh state assembly on 21 January 2005. The foundation stone of the institution was laid by Prime Minister of India Dr. Manmohan Singh on 30 April 2005"
- Ref 1 source: "The state government established the CSVTU through an Act passed by the Chhattisgarh assembly on January 21, 2005 to ensure systematic, efficient and quality education in engineering and technological subjects. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh laid the foundation stone of the university on April 30, 2005"
- 2)Article: "The University reserves 50 percent seats in postgraduate studies in courses like steel technique and material handling for the employees and children of the employees of Steel Authority of India"
- Ref 1 source:"The state government would reserve 50 percent of the seats in postgraduate studies in certain courses such as steel technique and material handling for SAIL employees while a few seats would be reserved for SAIL employees' children in other courses. IANS"
- — Maile (talk) 19:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I have reported it. --Tito☸Dutta 21:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- A hook based on the "industry-academia linkage system" mentioned in the article would be one possible alt, though I haven't checked the sources for that statement in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 16:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- The consensus there is that the article does indeed contain close paraphrasing that needs to be dealt with. Can you please fix it, and propose another hook? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Rewriting of those two sentences has been attempted.
- ALT1 ... Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University affiliates more than 60 Engineering colleges and more 30 Polytechnics colleges in Chhattisgarh, India? --Tito☸Dutta 14:43, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Note on ALT1: The University affiliates almost 100 Engineering colleges. I think, this piece of information might be interesting. --Tito☸Dutta 14:43, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Rewriting of those two sentences has been attempted.
- The consensus there is that the article does indeed contain close paraphrasing that needs to be dealt with. Can you please fix it, and propose another hook? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Gatoclass/Maile, can you please take a look at this now? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 07:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
- They followed Gujarat University. Anything second is not interesting. Industry-academia linkage system is not a highly significant step too. --Tito☸Dutta 18:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Copyvio detector has flagged this article as a possible copyvio, see this report. Gatoclass (talk) 16:15, 3 August 2013 (UTC)- WP:MIRROR Tito☸Dutta 16:32, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- Is there some way it can be confirmed that this is a case of MIRROR rather than copyvio? Gatoclass (talk) 16:48, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, a closer look at the article makes it pretty obvious it's a mirror. I'll run another check on this nomination next time I log on. Gatoclass (talk) 17:45, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- You can do these 1) click on "Read more" and see the full article. That's Wikipedia format. They have copied our whole article including references 2) See full article, right click>> View page source, find the word "Wikipedia", You'll get clues that content has been taken from Wikipedia. --Tito☸Dutta 17:53, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I have rewritten this article so it needs a new review. I have basically removed some redundant content, given it a copyedit and done my best to avoid close paraphrasing; however, there is a limit to the amount of changes that can be made when the sources contain only basic information. Per Creative expression and WP:LIMITED, facts cannot be copyrighted, only originality of expression, and I see little in the sources that could be described as original expression - these are all just basic facts and I see little reason why those facts cannot simply be duplicated here. Gatoclass (talk) 14:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
All issues seem to have been dealt with. Everything looks good to go. --Rushton2010 (talk) 00:05, 16 August 2013 (UTC)