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*<s>... that [[Baron Ellenborough]] ''(pictured)'', once [[Governor General of India]], made changes to '''[[Ellenborough Park Hotel|Southam House (now Ellenborough Park Hotel)]]''' and then funded it as a private girl's school?</s>
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] 6523 characters, created and expanded 20-22 June, article is well cited with inline citations, and the first part of the hook checks out. However, I cannot find anything in [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/ukhotels/8936326/Ellenborough-Park-Cheltenham-hotel-review.html this source] that says Baron Ellenborough himself funded it as an all-girl's school (rather, it only says: "Dating from 1500, it has been the home of the Earl of Ellenborough (in the 1830s), a private girls’ school and a hotel that became progressively more tired until it was bought by the present owners, a group of investors, in 2008."). The source also seems to indicate that it was an Earl, not a Baron, that did the changes. This should be addressed before promotion (please correct me if I'm wrong). Thanks, '''[[User:Ruby2010|<font color="003B48" size="2px">Ruby</font>]]''' [[User talk:Ruby2010|<font color="maroon " size="2px">2010/</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ruby2010|<font color="maroon " size="2px">2013</font>]] 20:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 
:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] 6523 characters, created and expanded 20-22 June, article is well cited with inline citations, and the first part of the hook checks out. However, I cannot find anything in [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/ukhotels/8936326/Ellenborough-Park-Cheltenham-hotel-review.html this source] that says Baron Ellenborough himself funded it as an all-girl's school (rather, it only says: "Dating from 1500, it has been the home of the Earl of Ellenborough (in the 1830s), a private girls’ school and a hotel that became progressively more tired until it was bought by the present owners, a group of investors, in 2008."). The source also seems to indicate that it was an Earl, not a Baron, that did the changes. This should be addressed before promotion (please correct me if I'm wrong). Thanks, '''[[User:Ruby2010|<font color="003B48" size="2px">Ruby</font>]]''' [[User talk:Ruby2010|<font color="maroon " size="2px">2010/</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ruby2010|<font color="maroon " size="2px">2013</font>]] 20:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 21:47, 5 March 2018

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 15:07, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Ellenborough Park Hotel

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC). Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Minella bianca

  • 16px 6523 characters, created and expanded 20-22 June, article is well cited with inline citations, and the first part of the hook checks out. However, I cannot find anything in this source that says Baron Ellenborough himself funded it as an all-girl's school (rather, it only says: "Dating from 1500, it has been the home of the Earl of Ellenborough (in the 1830s), a private girls’ school and a hotel that became progressively more tired until it was bought by the present owners, a group of investors, in 2008."). The source also seems to indicate that it was an Earl, not a Baron, that did the changes. This should be addressed before promotion (please correct me if I'm wrong). Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 20:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
The Earl is the same person as the Baron Earl of Ellenborough is a redirect.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 05:46, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but that doesn't yet address my other point about the source discrepancy mentioned above (it's not clear whether he funded the school). In short, "Later, it functioned as a private girls' school, funded by Ellenborough himself" is not supported by the source (at least that I can see). Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 04:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Other sources suggest that this hook is incorrect. C.f. "Following Edward Law’s death, Southam House and the landed estates at Southam, Oxenton and Prescott were rented out ... In 1947 a Miss Bellamy opened The Oriel Private School for Girls on the site, which was in existence for just twenty five years." Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 12:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Striking original hook just to be safe; leaving ALT1. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)