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<small>Created  by [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]).  Self nom at 03:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)</small>
 
<small>Created  by [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]).  Self nom at 03:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)</small>
  
:*Created January 19 and nominated January 21, with 3351 bytes of text, satisfying the nomination criteria. With the exception of the hook material, all text is sourced. The fact that the game occurred and contested by those teams is not in question. The fact that Schwartz "led" the team to the Rose Bowl needs a citation though. <font color="#8b4513">[[User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><font color="#ee8811">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</font> 02:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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:*Created January 19 and nominated January 21, with 3351 bytes of text, satisfying the nomination criteria. With the exception of the hook material, all text is sourced. The fact that the game occurred and contested by those teams is not in question. The fact that Schwartz "led" the team to the Rose Bowl needs a citation though. [[User:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[User_talk:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#ee8811;">matrix</span>]] 02:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 
::* The article identifies him as the captain of the 1930 team.  Isn't that enough to show he led the team?  The captaincy is suppored by the source at n. 4. [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 19:12, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 
::* The article identifies him as the captain of the 1930 team.  Isn't that enough to show he led the team?  The captaincy is suppored by the source at n. 4. [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 19:12, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
:::[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] My issue was related to the ambiguous definition of 'led'. Moreover, being a team captain is often simply symbolic. I suppose this use is OK, though I don't favour it. Hook still needs citation, per [[WP:WIADYK|DYK rules]] point 3b. That is, attach a citation to the statement beginning "During the 1930 season..." <font color="#8b4513">[[User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><font color="#ee8811">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</font> 17:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
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:::[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] My issue was related to the ambiguous definition of 'led'. Moreover, being a team captain is often simply symbolic. I suppose this use is OK, though I don't favour it. Hook still needs citation, per [[WP:WIADYK|DYK rules]] point 3b. That is, attach a citation to the statement beginning "During the 1930 season..." [[User:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[User_talk:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#ee8811;">matrix</span>]] 17:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 
::::*Mindmatrix, please be sure to use one of the status icons at the beginning of your reviews, so potential promoters can see where the review stands at a glance. They're shown just above the edit window. Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 19:37, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 
::::*Mindmatrix, please be sure to use one of the status icons at the beginning of your reviews, so potential promoters can see where the review stands at a glance. They're shown just above the edit window. Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 19:37, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
:::::*Sorry about that. I've attached a status icon to my previous message for clarity. <font color="#8b4513">[[User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><font color="#ee8811">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</font> 21:06, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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:::::*Sorry about that. I've attached a status icon to my previous message for clarity. [[User:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[User_talk:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#ee8811;">matrix</span>]] 21:06, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 
: <s>'''alt 1''' ... that [[Fullback (American football)|fullback]] '''[[Elmer Schwartz|"Elmer the Great" Schwartz]]''' was captain of the 1930 [[Washington State Cougars football]] team to the [[1931 Rose Bowl]] against [[1930 Alabama Crimson Tide football team|Alabama]]? </s> [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 05:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 
: <s>'''alt 1''' ... that [[Fullback (American football)|fullback]] '''[[Elmer Schwartz|"Elmer the Great" Schwartz]]''' was captain of the 1930 [[Washington State Cougars football]] team to the [[1931 Rose Bowl]] against [[1930 Alabama Crimson Tide football team|Alabama]]? </s> [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 05:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
  
[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Citation added to hook sentence in article. I suppose the oiginal hook is OK (see my comment on 6 February). <font color="#8b4513">[[User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><font color="#ee8811">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</font> 18:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC){{#if:yes|</div></noinclude>|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template talk:Did you know/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:Pending DYK nominations]][[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]]|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template:Did you know nominations/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]][[Category:Pending DYK nominations]]}}}}}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Citation added to hook sentence in article. I suppose the oiginal hook is OK (see my comment on 6 February). [[User:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[User_talk:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#ee8811;">matrix</span>]] 18:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC){{#if:yes|</div></noinclude>|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template talk:Did you know/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:Pending DYK nominations]][[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]]|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template:Did you know nominations/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]][[Category:Pending DYK nominations]]}}}}}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

Latest revision as of 19:17, 30 January 2019

Round symbols for illustrating comments about the DYK nomination The following is an archived discussion of Elmer Shwartz's DYK nomination. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page; such as this archived nomination"s (talk) page, the nominated article's (talk) page, or the Did you knowDYK comment symbol (talk) page. Unless there is consensus to re-open the archived discussion here. No further edits should be made to this page. See the talk page guidelines for (more) information.

The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC).

Elmer Schwartz

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Created January 19 and nominated January 21, with 3351 bytes of text, satisfying the nomination criteria. With the exception of the hook material, all text is sourced. The fact that the game occurred and contested by those teams is not in question. The fact that Schwartz "led" the team to the Rose Bowl needs a citation though. Mindmatrix 02:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
  • The article identifies him as the captain of the 1930 team. Isn't that enough to show he led the team? The captaincy is suppored by the source at n. 4. Cbl62 (talk) 19:12, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg My issue was related to the ambiguous definition of 'led'. Moreover, being a team captain is often simply symbolic. I suppose this use is OK, though I don't favour it. Hook still needs citation, per DYK rules point 3b. That is, attach a citation to the statement beginning "During the 1930 season..." Mindmatrix 17:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Mindmatrix, please be sure to use one of the status icons at the beginning of your reviews, so potential promoters can see where the review stands at a glance. They're shown just above the edit window. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that. I've attached a status icon to my previous message for clarity. Mindmatrix 21:06, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
alt 1 ... that fullback "Elmer the Great" Schwartz was captain of the 1930 Washington State Cougars football team to the 1931 Rose Bowl against Alabama? Cbl62 (talk) 05:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Citation added to hook sentence in article. I suppose the oiginal hook is OK (see my comment on 6 February). Mindmatrix 18:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC)