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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]])&nbsp;23:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
 
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<s>* ... that the '''[[First Battle of Newtonia]]''' was the first battle of the [[American Civil War]] in which organized units of [[Native Americans in the American Civil War|Native Americans]] fought on each side?  <small>[https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/damnable-time/article_cc8be2c7-a000-5a93-94c7-84834c13d206.html ''The Joplin Globe''</small></s>
 
 
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* ... that the '''[[First Battle of Newtonia]]''' was the first battle of the [[American Civil War]] in which organized units of [[Native Americans in the American Civil War|Native Americans]] fought on each side?  <small>[https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/damnable-time/article_cc8be2c7-a000-5a93-94c7-84834c13d206.html ''The Joplin Globe''</small>
 
 
** '''ALT1''':... that despite winning the '''[[First Battle of Newtonia]]''', the [[Confederate States Army|Confederate]] army retreated from [[Missouri]]?  <small>Sources 14 and 15 in the text</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that despite winning the '''[[First Battle of Newtonia]]''', the [[Confederate States Army|Confederate]] army retreated from [[Missouri]]?  <small>Sources 14 and 15 in the text</small>
 
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<small>Improved to Good Article status by [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] ([[User talk:Hog Farm|talk]]). Self-nominated at 15:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Improved to Good Article status by [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] ([[User talk:Hog Farm|talk]]). Self-nominated at 15:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC).</small>
 
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|hookcited    = While it is cited, I'm not sure it's true. [https://books.google.com/books?id=hqOjCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Native+Americans+Newtonia&source=bl&ots=Bfg7kdfg7g&sig=ACfU3U014CBfAeG3UYoluFmEDJnE4r9cNA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjumP_bq-noAhXUi54KHcI6A9o4FBDoATADegQIDBAn#v=onepage&q=Native%20Americans%20Newtonia&f=false According to this book] (pg. 30) Native American units participated in an earlier battle.
 
|hookcited    = While it is cited, I'm not sure it's true. [https://books.google.com/books?id=hqOjCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Native+Americans+Newtonia&source=bl&ots=Bfg7kdfg7g&sig=ACfU3U014CBfAeG3UYoluFmEDJnE4r9cNA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjumP_bq-noAhXUi54KHcI6A9o4FBDoATADegQIDBAn#v=onepage&q=Native%20Americans%20Newtonia&f=false According to this book] (pg. 30) Native American units participated in an earlier battle.
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**Reply: The kicker is that while yes, Native Americans had fought in battles since about the beginning of the war, the hook (at least intended to) claims that it was on both sides.  The parts of the book I saw doesn't seem to indicate against this.  Research of my own has suggested the Battle of Round Mountain may have seen action on both sides, so I'll need to research that more.  The newspaper quoted is one of the regional issues from the Newtonia area, newspapers in southwestern Missouri are going to be inherently low-circulation. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] ([[User talk:Hog Farm|talk]]) 02:53, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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***{{ping|Buidhe}} - Striking '''ALT0''' - After further research, this comes down to the definition of "organized" used (Round Mountain had both sides, but one wasn't really official or organized)  Is '''ALT1''' interesting enough, or do I need to work on other hooks?  Are you going to send this one through Good Article Reassessment? [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] ([[User talk:Hog Farm|talk]]) 02:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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Latest revision as of 23:36, 9 May 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DannyS712 (talk) 23:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

First Battle of Newtonia

* ... that the First Battle of Newtonia was the first battle of the American Civil War in which organized units of Native Americans fought on each side? [https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/damnable-time/article_cc8be2c7-a000-5a93-94c7-84834c13d206.html The Joplin Globe

Improved to Good Article status by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 15:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC).

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  • Symbol voting keep.svg ALT1 is fine, I cannot verify myself but will AGF on it. buidhe 03:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC)