Template:Did you know nominations/Head of Nefertem

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The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 02:28, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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Head of Nefertem

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Head of Nefertem

• ... that, although excavated from Tutankhamun's tomb, the Head of Nefertem (pictured) does not appear in Howard Carter's excavation journal and was only found in 1924 among the bottles in a crate of wine?

Created by Furius (talk). Self nominated at 13:39, 18 June 2014 (UTC).

• 16px New (18 June), 3015B, Image is good (though I feel the infobox image will look better in DYK). AGF for paraphasing clause, as hardly any English ref is online and references. The hook is exactly "200", which needs to be shortened. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:42, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

• I went with the secondary picture because it shows some striking elements of the sculpture: the lotus flower and the elongated skull, which are missing from the infobox picture, but I'm happy to swap it out for the infobox one if that is felt to be the better move.

As for the hook, how about:

ALT 1: ... that, although excavated from Tutankhamun's tomb, the Head of Nefertem (pictured) doesn't appear in the excavation journal and was only found in 1924 among the bottles in a wine box? (182 characters)

Furius (talk) 14:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

16px Furius, The image is your choice. Technically, a good ahead for the hook too. However, the hook can be made more crisp, by cutting some detail like the year. Also, "excavation journal" is a little vague; can a non-specialist understand the concept? Also, QPQ is needed. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:34, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Alterations for additional crispness and comprehensibility:

ALT 2: ... that, although excavated from Tutankhamun's tomb, the Head of Nefertem (pictured) does not appear in the excavation records and was only found later, in a box of wine?

Does Template:Did you know nominations/Edward Hatton (surveyor) count for QPQ? Furius (talk) 09:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

16px Ref not online. Changing "doesn't" to the formal "does not" in the hook. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

• 16px 1) Sorry, but much of the article has no inline sourcing, including one entire section and most of another section. Per D2, there needs to be at least one inline citation per paragraph.

2) Question about the licensing on the image. The image was uploaded to Commons in 2007 from the online source Egypt Archive, and has the note: "As of March 2011, Egypt Archive website was closed so if a file is uploaded after that time we need further proof of permission." For use on the MP, this needs to be checked. — Maile (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

1) There is now a citation per paragraph. I cannot find much in the way of references to the Description section in the books available to me - they generally just provide pictures.

2) The file was uploaded in 2007, which is not after March 2011, so I don't understand the issue. Furius (talk) 17:55, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

• 12px Verifying that the citations were added, but I did not check them against the text. Yes, I saw that the image was uploaded to Commons in 2007. There may not be any problem at all with the licensing on the image. I don't know if rights change when the licensing website shuts down. But if you've been noticing WT:DYK lately, they're getting quite picky about everything. So it's better to clear the air on the licensing here, rather than taking a chance on someone later wanting it to be pulled from a Queue. The person who posted the notice is Template:U, so pinging him here in case he can clear any doubts about this. — Maile (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

• Also pinging Template:U who may have enough knowledge about such things to clear this up. Hopefully, there will be no issue at all, and this can be re-ticked for a pass. — Maile (talk) 21:44, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

• Did anyone actually bother to click on the link provided in the template? This one? It says that all of his images were uploaded to be "copyright free". It's fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

• 16px — Maile (talk) 22:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC)