Template:Did you know nominations/Jovan Albanez

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:29, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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Jovan Albanez, Serbian Hussar Regiment

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• ... that Jovan Albanez was the first commander of the Serbian Hussar Regiment of the Imperial Russian Army?

• Reviewed: Marian Lutosławski, Rospigliosi family

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nominated at 13:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC).

• 16px Good to go. Hook, Article, and Other are all fine. --Ustallaretevjeter (talk) 16:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

• • 16px 16px The review needs more details, in accordance with. DYK review instructions Template:Tq Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 19:09, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

• 16px New reviewer needed to do full review. Original reviewer only edited on Wikipedia that one day, so I don't feel we can trust the review; for all we know, it might have been yet another sock of PapaJeckloy, who was creating socks at that point in time. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:25, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

• 16px Dates and lengths are fine. I was able to verify that Jovan Albanez (Јован Албанез) was mentioned in the book cited via Google Books), but the book is in Serbian so I wasn't able to verify the hook any further, though the two articles are consistent. No obvious sign of copyvio or other policy issues. Should be good to go. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:54, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

• 16px Both articles needed a thorough copyedit for English grammar, which I did. However, while Serbian Hussar Regiment may be good to go, Jovan Albanez is simply a cut-and-paste of several paragraphs from Serbian Hussar Regiment. I don't think a mirror article qualifies for DYK. Yoninah (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Template:U very much for copy editing of both articles. You are right, though it was the opposite way. Significant portion of text (1,509 characters to be precise) from smaller article about Jovan Albanez were used to create bigger Serbian Hussar Regiment article of 2,687 characters (1,509 + 1,178). My rationale was like this: if 1,500 characters are minimum per DYK requirements, around 80% of that number are not same as in other article. If my logic is wrong, I don't mind turning this nomination into single instead of double.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:37, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

• Well, that's an interesting explanation. Still, there is not 1500 words of original text in Serbian Hussar Regiment if all that text is credited to Jovan Albanez. If you don't have additional biographical information about Albanez, I suggest that you just nominate Serbian Hussar Regiment, which seems more complete. Yoninah (talk) 20:49, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

• I added about 580 characters to the Regiment article so its text has more than 1,500 characters of text different from Albanez article.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:51, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• 16px Thank you. Both articles now have minimum 1500 char of new text. Foreign-language hook refs AGF and cited inline in both articles. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:29, 10 October 2014 (UTC)