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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 22:46, 4 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... that [[Siegfried Matthus]] composed the opera '''''[[Judith (Matthus)|Judith]]''''' for the reopening of the restored [[Semperoper]] but it premiered at the [[Komische Oper Berlin]] in 1985, staged by [[Harry Kupfer]]?  <small>Source: book</small>
 
* ... that [[Siegfried Matthus]] composed the opera '''''[[Judith (Matthus)|Judith]]''''' for the reopening of the restored [[Semperoper]] but it premiered at the [[Komische Oper Berlin]] in 1985, staged by [[Harry Kupfer]]?  <small>Source: book</small>
 
** <s>'''ALT1''':... that the first production of the opera '''''[[Judith (Matthus)|Judith]]''''' by [[Siegfried Matthus]] at the [[Komische Oper Berlin]], staged by [[Harry Kupfer]], was recorded in a studio of the [[Deutscher Fernsehfunk|national television]]?</s>  <small>Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)</small>
 
** <s>'''ALT1''':... that the first production of the opera '''''[[Judith (Matthus)|Judith]]''''' by [[Siegfried Matthus]] at the [[Komische Oper Berlin]], staged by [[Harry Kupfer]], was recorded in a studio of the [[Deutscher Fernsehfunk|national television]]?</s>  <small>Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)</small>
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:* ''Comment'': I like to mention Kupfer, as he was the reason for all this: the composition, the other location and the recording.
 
:* ''Comment'': I like to mention Kupfer, as he was the reason for all this: the composition, the other location and the recording.
 
<small>Created by [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]). Self-nominated at 13:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
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:* Overall: [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] This looks OK, AGF on sources. An additional source or two, and a fact about ''Holofernes-Porträt' as mentioend below, would be welcome but not essential. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)  
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:* Overall: [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] This looks OK, AGF on sources. An additional source or two, and a fact about ''Holofernes-Porträt'' as mentioend below, would be welcome but '''not essential'''. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)  
 
:**  [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] Long Enough (1653 characters) , new enough (created 7 days before being nominated)
 
:**  [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] Long Enough (1653 characters) , new enough (created 7 days before being nominated)
 
:**  [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] article is within policy. No copyvio, no apparent close paraphrase, sufficient source citations. I am a bit concerned that so much is cited to the Breitkopf & Härtel source, as they are the publisher of a recording of the opera, and so not independent. I could wish that we had an independent source for at least some of what is now sourced here, but I think this is OK. Notability is established in my view, but there is only just barely enough independent sources (2) cited to establish it. Here again one or two additional independent sources would improve the article, but i will accept this as it stands.
 
:**  [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] article is within policy. No copyvio, no apparent close paraphrase, sufficient source citations. I am a bit concerned that so much is cited to the Breitkopf & Härtel source, as they are the publisher of a recording of the opera, and so not independent. I could wish that we had an independent source for at least some of what is now sourced here, but I think this is OK. Notability is established in my view, but there is only just barely enough independent sources (2) cited to establish it. Here again one or two additional independent sources would improve the article, but i will accept this as it stands.
 
:** [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] Hooks are short enough; supported by inline citations. The sources are offline and in German, I [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] that the sources support the hooks. In my view ALT0 is interesting enough, while ALt1 is a bit bland. That an opera, in the 1980s, was recorded for television at is premier performance is not particularly surprising or interesting, IMO.  
 
:** [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] Hooks are short enough; supported by inline citations. The sources are offline and in German, I [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] that the sources support the hooks. In my view ALT0 is interesting enough, while ALt1 is a bit bland. That an opera, in the 1980s, was recorded for television at is premier performance is not particularly surprising or interesting, IMO.  
 
:** [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] Image used in article is under a free license, but it is not part of the DYK nom in any case.
 
:** [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] Image used in article is under a free license, but it is not part of the DYK nom in any case.
:** '''Comment'' I could wish that he type of composition that ''Holofernes-Porträt'' is was stated, so that instead of reading {{tqqi|At the same time Matthus composed '''the opera'''  ''Holofernes-Porträt'' for [[baritone]] and orchestra ...} it could read {{tqqi|At the same time Matthus composed  ''Holofernes-Porträt'' for [[baritone]] and orchestra}} (or "the  symphony" or 'the tone poem" or what ever it was). I think nthjis would be an improvement, but it does not really affect this DYK nom.
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:** '''Comment''' I could wish that he type of composition that ''Holofernes-Porträt'' is was stated, so that instead of reading {{tqqi|At the same time Matthus composed '''the opera'''  ''Holofernes-Porträt'' for [[baritone]] and orchestra ...}} it could read {{tqqi|At the same time Matthus composed  ''Holofernes-Porträt'' for [[baritone]] and orchestra}} (or "the  symphony" or 'the tone poem" or what ever it was). I think nthjis would be an improvement, but it does not really affect this DYK nom.
 
:** [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] QPK: <s>Not done yet.</s> Now done.  
 
:** [[File:Yes check.svg|12px|link=|alt=]] QPK: <s>Not done yet.</s> Now done.  
 
:* This completes the review for now. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:* This completes the review for now. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:*: Thank you! I reviewed [[Template:Did you know nominations/Eugen Ernst]], - more tomorrow. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:*: Thank you! I reviewed [[Template:Did you know nominations/Eugen Ernst]], - more tomorrow. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
:*:: Thank You! Good to go. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 22:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
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:*:: Thank You! Good to go. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]  ((ping|Gerda Arendt}} [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 22:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 22:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)</div><includeonly>|}}</includeonly><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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Latest revision as of 16:20, 2 January 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:46, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Judith (Matthus)

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: I like to mention Kupfer, as he was the reason for all this: the composition, the other location and the recording.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC).

  • Overall: Symbol voting keep.svg This looks OK, AGF on sources. An additional source or two, and a fact about Holofernes-Porträt as mentioend below, would be welcome but not essential. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
    • Long Enough (1653 characters) , new enough (created 7 days before being nominated)
    • article is within policy. No copyvio, no apparent close paraphrase, sufficient source citations. I am a bit concerned that so much is cited to the Breitkopf & Härtel source, as they are the publisher of a recording of the opera, and so not independent. I could wish that we had an independent source for at least some of what is now sourced here, but I think this is OK. Notability is established in my view, but there is only just barely enough independent sources (2) cited to establish it. Here again one or two additional independent sources would improve the article, but i will accept this as it stands.
    • Hooks are short enough; supported by inline citations. The sources are offline and in German, I assume good faith that the sources support the hooks. In my view ALT0 is interesting enough, while ALt1 is a bit bland. That an opera, in the 1980s, was recorded for television at is premier performance is not particularly surprising or interesting, IMO.
    • Image used in article is under a free license, but it is not part of the DYK nom in any case.
    • Comment I could wish that he type of composition that Holofernes-Porträt is was stated, so that instead of reading Template:Tqqi it could read Template:Tqqi (or "the symphony" or 'the tone poem" or what ever it was). I think nthjis would be an improvement, but it does not really affect this DYK nom.
    • QPK: Not done yet. Now done.
  • This completes the review for now. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
    Thank you! I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Eugen Ernst, - more tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
    Thank You! Good to go. DES (talk) ((ping|Gerda Arendt}} DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)DESiegel Contribs 22:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)