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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 02:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... <s>that the earliest modern revivals of the ancient '''[[Persian column]]s''' of the [[Achaemenid Empire]] (example at [[Persepolis]] pictured) were by [[Parsi]]s in India, rather than in Iran? </s> <small>India: [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=stfWE8aAlz8C&pg=PA63 here, p. 63ff], also [http://krcama.org/product/identity-politics-in-irano-indian-modern-architecture-by-talinn-grigor/ here], Iran: [http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/architecture-vii</small>
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* ... that the earliest modern revivals of the ancient '''[[Persian column]]s''' of the [[Achaemenid Empire]] (example at [[Persepolis]] pictured) were by [[Parsi]]s in India, rather than in Iran? <small>India: [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=stfWE8aAlz8C&pg=PA63 here, p. 63ff], also [http://krcama.org/product/identity-politics-in-irano-indian-modern-architecture-by-talinn-grigor/ here], Iran: [http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/architecture-vii</small>
 
 
** '''ALT1''':... that the ancient '''[[Persian column]]s''' of the [[Achaemenid Empire]] (example at [[Persepolis]] pictured) were revived by 19th-century [[Parsi]]s in India, and in Iran in the 20th century? ...?  <small>India: [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=stfWE8aAlz8C&pg=PA63 here, p. 63ff], also [http://krcama.org/product/identity-politics-in-irano-indian-modern-architecture-by-talinn-grigor/ here], Iran: [http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/architecture-vii</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that the ancient '''[[Persian column]]s''' of the [[Achaemenid Empire]] (example at [[Persepolis]] pictured) were revived by 19th-century [[Parsi]]s in India, and in Iran in the 20th century? ...?  <small>India: [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=stfWE8aAlz8C&pg=PA63 here, p. 63ff], also [http://krcama.org/product/identity-politics-in-irano-indian-modern-architecture-by-talinn-grigor/ here], Iran: [http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/architecture-vii</small>
 
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<small>5x expanded by [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]). Self-nominated at 00:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]). Self-nominated at 00:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC).</small>
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and well referenced. QPQ is done. Image is freely licensed. However, I could not verify the hook. I checked the sources linked above, and could not find one that explicitly says the first modern revivals were by Indian Parsis. Am I missing something? -[[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) 05:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and well referenced. QPQ is done. Image is freely licensed. However, I could not verify the hook. I checked the sources linked above, and could not find one that explicitly says the first modern revivals were by Indian Parsis. Am I missing something? -[[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) 05:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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:'''ALT1''' added above. Let the reader do the maths. Sources are the same. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 15:45, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:'''ALT1''' added above. Let the reader do the maths. Sources are the same. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 15:45, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Cmt, prefer original hook, which seems fine wrt sources. "earliest modern revivals of the ancient..." is much clearer. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 20:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Cmt, prefer original hook, which seems fine wrt sources. "earliest modern revivals of the ancient..." is much clearer. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 20:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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::: [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] '''ALT1''' is verified and good to go. {{re|Ceoil}} If you prefer ALT0, please present an RS that explicitly supports it. Otherwise it cannot be used. -[[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) 00:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 02:02, 9 May 2018

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 02:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Persian column

Top of Achaemenid column from Persepolis
Top of Achaemenid column from Persepolis

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and well referenced. QPQ is done. Image is freely licensed. However, I could not verify the hook. I checked the sources linked above, and could not find one that explicitly says the first modern revivals were by Indian Parsis. Am I missing something? -Zanhe (talk) 05:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Ok try p. 59-60, and note 35, p. 68 on the first Indian source? Also, the Encyclopedia Iranica article on the period up to 1925 makes no mention of Achaemenid Revival architecture, because there wasn't any. There's this lecture, around 6:10-6:20, 23:15-26 and 32: from the same prof. Johnbod (talk) 18:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I read pages 59-60 and 68, without finding anything that directly supports the hook. And I don't know what lecture you were referring to as you didn't provide a link. Please provide a source and a quotation. Thanks. -Zanhe (talk) 19:37, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Probably I'd better think of a new hook if the above doesn't do it for you. I'll try to find something less interesting matching with a direct quote. Sorry I forgot the lecture link. Johnbod (talk) 00:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
ALT1 added above. Let the reader do the maths. Sources are the same. Johnbod (talk) 15:45, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Cmt, prefer original hook, which seems fine wrt sources. "earliest modern revivals of the ancient..." is much clearer. Ceoil (talk) 20:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1 is verified and good to go. Template:Re If you prefer ALT0, please present an RS that explicitly supports it. Otherwise it cannot be used. -Zanhe (talk) 00:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)