Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Pearsall (architect)

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The result was: promoted by  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Robert Pearsall (architect)

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• ... that London's oldest operational fire station, designed by Robert Pearsall, is due to close in January?

• Reviewed: Alma Downtown Historic District

Created by Edwardx (talk), Paul W (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 10:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC).

• 16px Article was nominated within five days of its creation, and is about 2250 characters of prose (about 1700 when discounting the lists, so still OK). The first ref is not reliable - there is no author information, and the domain name registry data does not reveal the identity of the owner/writer. The "Pearsall Book Vol. II" ref is sourced to Geocities, also unreliable; I was unable to find a book with this title on Google Books (I tried numerous different search strings), so you'll need to find the correct title and provide a proper citation for it. References 5 and 6 contradict each other - one states the building was constructed in 1879, the other in 1889. Other refs are OK. Please resolve these ref issues so that I can complete my review. Mindmatrix 22:36, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
• Also, please consider adding {{Infobox architect}}. Mindmatrix 22:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
• QPQ completed. Mindmatrix 02:27, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

• I have replaced the unreliable e-shootershill references with alternative citations from more reliable sources.
• Found additional verification of correct date (1889) of Manchester Square fire station.
• Not sure about the Geocities information (originally included by User:Edwardx). I was thinking it was perhaps best to delete this unverified material, but I followed some links and found a 1928 book entitled "HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE PEARSALL FAMILY IN ENGLAND AND AMERICA" which appears to have been used by more recent family researchers for background information. I haven't, of course, seen the book but it is identified in Google book searches, and the Geocities (and Tripod) pages provide a page number which I've included in the citation. Paul W (talk) 10:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

• 16px Keying specific search terms in the Google Books overview for the book reveals snippets from pages 672-673, and I've compared them to the excerpts on the Geocities page; these match, so I'll assume this is the correct book. You added this as a ref, but I can't accept it as it is a copy of the WP article List of places of worship in Tonbridge and Malling (the table therein has two reliable sources; the online source doesn't mention Pearsall, but West Kent and the Weald by John Newman, 1969 does, on page 469). References for some of the listed works don't mention Pearsall (eg - Bishopsgate); I know I saw this mentioned in one of the other sources, but don't recall which one. All other updates are fine. Mindmatrix 16:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks User:Mindmatrix. I have replaced the Tonbridge reference with the Pevsner guide citation. The Bishopsgate mention is in the Woolwich listing by English Heritage, but it gave no date so the two references there give dates and confirm the listed status. Hope this helps move us forward. Paul W (talk) 09:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

• 16px All issues have been addressed, and I am assuming good faith for the offline ref (Clarence Pearsall, 1928). I've also tweaked formatting for two references for consistency. Mindmatrix 16:27, 9 January 2014 (UTC)