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*<s> ... that '''[[Shah Jahan II]]''' ''(pictured)'' was chosen by the [[Sayyid brothers]] to succeed his younger brother [[Rafi ud-Darajat]] as the [[Mughal emperor]]?</s> | *<s> ... that '''[[Shah Jahan II]]''' ''(pictured)'' was chosen by the [[Sayyid brothers]] to succeed his younger brother [[Rafi ud-Darajat]] as the [[Mughal emperor]]?</s> | ||
− | ** '''ALT1''':... that despite being the [[List of Indian monarchs|emperor of India]], '''[[Shah Jahan II]]'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' food, visits and meetings were decided by the powerful [[Sayyid brothers]] who had chosen him as the [[Mughal emperor]]? | + | ** '''ALT1''':<s>... that despite being the [[List of Indian monarchs|emperor of India]], '''[[Shah Jahan II]]'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' food, visits and meetings were decided by the powerful [[Sayyid brothers]] who had chosen him as the [[Mughal emperor]]?</s> |
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Captain (2019 film)]] | :* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Captain (2019 film)]] | ||
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Royroydeb|Royroydeb]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]). Self-nominated at 16:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC).</small> | <small>5x expanded by [[User:Royroydeb|Royroydeb]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]). Self-nominated at 16:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC).</small> | ||
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|comments = 5x expanded and nominated on time. The hook is boring. I understand it may not be easy to find an interesting hook here. I feel ALT1 that I proposed is slightly more interesting. Royroydeb let me know your thoughts on this. | |comments = 5x expanded and nominated on time. The hook is boring. I understand it may not be easy to find an interesting hook here. I feel ALT1 that I proposed is slightly more interesting. Royroydeb let me know your thoughts on this. | ||
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:Ok, I have no objection to the new hook. {{ping|DBigXray}}. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 14:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC) | :Ok, I have no objection to the new hook. {{ping|DBigXray}}. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 14:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC) | ||
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:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you. Replacing tick as per DBigXray's review. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 10:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC) | :*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you. Replacing tick as per DBigXray's review. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 10:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC) | ||
::*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused by the wording of ALT1. Do you mean: | ::*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused by the wording of ALT1. Do you mean: | ||
− | ::*'''ALT1a''': ... that despite being the emperor of India, '''[[Shah Jahan II]]'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful [[Sayyid brothers]] who had chosen him as the [[Mughal emperor]]? | + | ::*'''ALT1a''': <s>... that despite being the emperor of India, '''[[Shah Jahan II]]'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful [[Sayyid brothers]] who had chosen him as the [[Mughal emperor]]?</s> |
::*But why are you calling him two kinds of emperor, Indian and Mughal? Could the hook be tightened? Perhaps something along the lines of: | ::*But why are you calling him two kinds of emperor, Indian and Mughal? Could the hook be tightened? Perhaps something along the lines of: | ||
::*'''ALT2''': ... that '''[[Shah Jahan II]]'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful [[Sayyid brothers]] who had chosen him as the [[Mughal emperor]]? [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 19:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC) | ::*'''ALT2''': ... that '''[[Shah Jahan II]]'''{{`s}} ''(pictured)'' food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful [[Sayyid brothers]] who had chosen him as the [[Mughal emperor]]? [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 19:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC) | ||
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::::{{ping|Yoninah}} {{ping|DBigXray}} ALT2 is better. In international context, I dont think people are habituated with the historic Indian subcontinent being referred to as India only. Also, I think that emperor of India is not correct in international context. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 07:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC) | ::::{{ping|Yoninah}} {{ping|DBigXray}} ALT2 is better. In international context, I dont think people are habituated with the historic Indian subcontinent being referred to as India only. Also, I think that emperor of India is not correct in international context. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 07:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::*ok then. I am fine to go with the majority here. ALT 2 can proceed. ''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 08:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC) | ::::*ok then. I am fine to go with the majority here. ALT 2 can proceed. ''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 08:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC) | ||
− | + | :::::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Restoring tick for ALT2 per DBigXray. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 20:35, 5 May 2019 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.--> | |
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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Shah Jahan II
... that Shah Jahan II (pictured) was chosen by the Sayyid brothers to succeed his younger brother Rafi ud-Darajat as the Mughal emperor?- ALT1:
... that despite being the emperor of India, Shah Jahan IITemplate:`s (pictured) food, visits and meetings were decided by the powerful Sayyid brothers who had chosen him as the Mughal emperor?
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5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC). Lua error: expandTemplate: template "y" does not exist.
- Ok, I have no objection to the new hook. Template:Ping. RRD (talk) 14:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Template:Ping I find the article too confusing to promote this hook. I understand that little is known of the detail of Shah Jahan II's life, but there is confusion and contradiction over which brother is older "Shah Jahan II suffered from tuberculosis just like his elder brother" and "He was eighteen months older than his brother Rafi ud-Darajat" and the second statement even used "years" before I thought I could clear up the confusion by substituting "months". Please check the article carefully and match it up with the article Rafi ud-Darajat. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Ping Shah Jahan II is the older than Rafi-ud-Darajat. But inadvertently I wrote the opposite. However, I have now made the changes. Also Rafi-ud-Darajat article is neither FA nor GA. Moreover it is unsourced. So it cant be used as a "reference". RRD (talk) 10:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Replacing tick as per DBigXray's review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused by the wording of ALT1. Do you mean:
- ALT1a:
... that despite being the emperor of India, Shah Jahan IITemplate:`s (pictured) food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful Sayyid brothers who had chosen him as the Mughal emperor? - But why are you calling him two kinds of emperor, Indian and Mughal? Could the hook be tightened? Perhaps something along the lines of:
- ALT2: ... that Shah Jahan IITemplate:`s (pictured) food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful Sayyid brothers who had chosen him as the Mughal emperor? Yoninah (talk) 19:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah, Emperor of India refers to the Indian empire, his kingdom, while Mughal emperor was added as a reference to his Mughal Dynasty. Template:Ping what do you think of above suggestions ? DBigXrayᗙ 04:08, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Ping Template:Ping ALT2 is better. In international context, I dont think people are habituated with the historic Indian subcontinent being referred to as India only. Also, I think that emperor of India is not correct in international context. RRD (talk) 07:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC)