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[[File:1549 siftwinnow.jpg|100x100px|University of Wisconsin–Madison Class of 1910 "sifting and winnowing" plaque]]
 
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* ... the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison]]'s '''[[sifting and winnowing]]''' tradition of defending [[academic freedom]] was commemorated by its Class of 1910 in a prominent plaque ''(pictured)''?
 
* ... the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison]]'s '''[[sifting and winnowing]]''' tradition of defending [[academic freedom]] was commemorated by its Class of 1910 in a prominent plaque ''(pictured)''?
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:* <s>'''ALT2''': ... whatever the limitations that trammel inquiry elsewhere, the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison|UW–Madison]] encourages that continual and fearless '''[[sifting and winnowing]]''' ''(plaque pictured)'' by which alone [[academic freedom|the truth can be found]]?</s>
 
:* <s>'''ALT2''': ... whatever the limitations that trammel inquiry elsewhere, the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison|UW–Madison]] encourages that continual and fearless '''[[sifting and winnowing]]''' ''(plaque pictured)'' by which alone [[academic freedom|the truth can be found]]?</s>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Czar|Czar]] ([[User talk:Czar|talk]]).&nbsp;Self nominated at 02:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)</small>.
 
<small>Created by [[User:Czar|Czar]] ([[User talk:Czar|talk]]).&nbsp;Self nominated at 02:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)</small>.
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Long enough, new enough, hook short enough (bits in 'pictured' brackets don't count). The plaque effectively sourced ALT0 and ALT1; I recommend that ALT2, if used, be either placed in quotes or reworded as it's still taken from the plaque. I don't know what UW-Madison is, so I would recommend writing it as 'University of Wisconsin-Madison' as you do have the room to do so. Image is fair use, but doesn't show up too well at small size - I simply cannot read it at that small! Also the lead section doesn't have a reference in it.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">Laun</font>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">chba</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<font color="#00F">ller</font>]]</span> 13:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Long enough, new enough, hook short enough (bits in 'pictured' brackets don't count). The plaque effectively sourced ALT0 and ALT1; I recommend that ALT2, if used, be either placed in quotes or reworded as it's still taken from the plaque. I don't know what UW-Madison is, so I would recommend writing it as 'University of Wisconsin-Madison' as you do have the room to do so. Image is fair use, but doesn't show up too well at small size - I simply cannot read it at that small! Also the lead section doesn't have a reference in it.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">Laun</span>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">chba</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">ller</span>]]</span> 13:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Image is free use, not fair use (which wouldn't be okay for DYK). Lede shouldn't need refs since it paraphrases the article, which is fully sourced. Expand UWM in ALT2 if necessary, but whether the parenthetical text counts is still debated ([[Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#.22Rules.22_sometimes_invoked_but_lacking_a_consensus|see E5]]). Also you may want to add a tick icon so others can see the status of the nom. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><font color="#909">czar</font>&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 02:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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:::Image is free use, not fair use (which wouldn't be okay for DYK). Lede shouldn't need refs since it paraphrases the article, which is fully sourced. Expand UWM in ALT2 if necessary, but whether the parenthetical text counts is still debated ([[Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#.22Rules.22_sometimes_invoked_but_lacking_a_consensus|see E5]]). Also you may want to add a tick icon so others can see the status of the nom. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><span style="color:#909;">czar</span>&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 02:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Sorry, I'm still learning.
 
::::Sorry, I'm still learning.
 
*<s>'''ALT3''': ... whatever the limitations that trammel inquiry elsewhere, the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison]] encourages that continual and fearless '''[[sifting and winnowing]]''' ''(plaque pictured)'' by which alone [[academic freedom|the truth can be found]]?</s>
 
*<s>'''ALT3''': ... whatever the limitations that trammel inquiry elsewhere, the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison]] encourages that continual and fearless '''[[sifting and winnowing]]''' ''(plaque pictured)'' by which alone [[academic freedom|the truth can be found]]?</s>
Requires another reviewer to look at it, though.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">Laun</font>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">chba</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<font color="#00F">ller</font>]]</span> 08:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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Requires another reviewer to look at it, though.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">Laun</span>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">chba</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">ller</span>]]</span> 08:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
::::: No problem—just don't know why the nom is on hold. How is that ALT3 different from ALT2? We'd only need another reviewer if I wanted to use a hook you wrote (and even that's not exactly a rule). Anyway, let me know what needs to change, or only approve the hooks you want, etc. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><font color="#909">czar</font>&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 14:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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::::: No problem—just don't know why the nom is on hold. How is that ALT3 different from ALT2? We'd only need another reviewer if I wanted to use a hook you wrote (and even that's not exactly a rule). Anyway, let me know what needs to change, or only approve the hooks you want, etc. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><span style="color:#909;">czar</span>&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 14:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
::::::Whoops, I copied it and forgot to change it. Fixed.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">Laun</font>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">chba</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<font color="#00F">ller</font>]]</span> 14:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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::::::Whoops, I copied it and forgot to change it. Fixed.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">Laun</span>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">chba</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">ller</span>]]</span> 14:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
  
 
*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Striking both ALT2 and ALT3, as they fail to use quote marks to indicate the quoted part of the original committee report used in the hook (something Launchballer originally noted, but then didn't rectify when proposing ALT3). Either can be reproposed if all quoted sections are properly marked. Alternatively, if the original hook and ALT1 are ready to go, this could be approved right now with the later two ALT hooks now eliminated. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 01:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 
*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Striking both ALT2 and ALT3, as they fail to use quote marks to indicate the quoted part of the original committee report used in the hook (something Launchballer originally noted, but then didn't rectify when proposing ALT3). Either can be reproposed if all quoted sections are properly marked. Alternatively, if the original hook and ALT1 are ready to go, this could be approved right now with the later two ALT hooks now eliminated. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 01:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::I'm not personally attached to those hooks—run whatever's best <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><font color="#909">czar</font>&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 02:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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::I'm not personally attached to those hooks—run whatever's best <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><span style="color:#909;">czar</span>&nbsp;[[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 02:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Approved, going with ALT1.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">Laun</font>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<font color="#00F">chba</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<font color="#00F">ller</font>]]</span> 16:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Approved, going with ALT1.--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">Laun</span>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">chba</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">ller</span>]]</span> 16:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 13:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Sifting and winnowing

University of Wisconsin–Madison Class of 1910 "sifting and winnowing" plaque

Created by Czar (talk). Self nominated at 02:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, hook short enough (bits in 'pictured' brackets don't count). The plaque effectively sourced ALT0 and ALT1; I recommend that ALT2, if used, be either placed in quotes or reworded as it's still taken from the plaque. I don't know what UW-Madison is, so I would recommend writing it as 'University of Wisconsin-Madison' as you do have the room to do so. Image is fair use, but doesn't show up too well at small size - I simply cannot read it at that small! Also the lead section doesn't have a reference in it.--Launchballer 13:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Image is free use, not fair use (which wouldn't be okay for DYK). Lede shouldn't need refs since it paraphrases the article, which is fully sourced. Expand UWM in ALT2 if necessary, but whether the parenthetical text counts is still debated (see E5). Also you may want to add a tick icon so others can see the status of the nom. czar  02:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm still learning.

Requires another reviewer to look at it, though.--Launchballer 08:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

No problem—just don't know why the nom is on hold. How is that ALT3 different from ALT2? We'd only need another reviewer if I wanted to use a hook you wrote (and even that's not exactly a rule). Anyway, let me know what needs to change, or only approve the hooks you want, etc. czar  14:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Whoops, I copied it and forgot to change it. Fixed.--Launchballer 14:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Striking both ALT2 and ALT3, as they fail to use quote marks to indicate the quoted part of the original committee report used in the hook (something Launchballer originally noted, but then didn't rectify when proposing ALT3). Either can be reproposed if all quoted sections are properly marked. Alternatively, if the original hook and ALT1 are ready to go, this could be approved right now with the later two ALT hooks now eliminated. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm not personally attached to those hooks—run whatever's best czar  02:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Approved, going with ALT1.--Launchballer 16:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)