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<small>Created by [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]).&nbsp;Self nominated at 15:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC)</small>.
 
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:* It's not immediately clear what ESP is, especially since the [[ESP]] article is a disambiguation page. [[User:CaseyPenk|CaseyPenk]] ([[User talk:CaseyPenk|talk]]) 17:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 
:* It's not immediately clear what ESP is, especially since the [[ESP]] article is a disambiguation page. [[User:CaseyPenk|CaseyPenk]] ([[User talk:CaseyPenk|talk]]) 17:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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:[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Everything checks out. Minor tweaks made, and a more major one, that Bink will hate me for: I trimmed the bibliography. Pass it on. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 00:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 22:25, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ted Andrews

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nominated at 15:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC).

  • It's not immediately clear what ESP is, especially since the ESP article is a disambiguation page. CaseyPenk (talk) 17:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Great addition, and really clears it up. But I don't think ESP needs to be mentioned twice in the hook. How about, "started a club to explore extrasensory perception" or "started an extrasensory perception club"? The other problem, though, is that I don't think Harmony Channel is a reliable source. The Wikipedia article on Harmony Channel is unsourced. CaseyPenk (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Hmmm. I don't think I can defend the interview source as quickly as I can propose another hook. Let's see how this second version works, cited to a scholarly journal which discusses Andrews and his most famous book. Binksternet (talk) 20:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that Ted AndrewsTemplate:` best-selling book Animal Speak aims to help the reader learn how "to listen with animal ears and to see through animal eyes"?
  • Thanks for pinging me! This one is pretty interesting so I think it has potential. It does seem like PR though, so I'd avoid using a word like "best-selling." Perhaps you can just cut out that word altogether.
Setting aside the question of how the word is perceived (i.e. it seems like marketing), I'm not even sure if best-selling is an accurate description. Yes, it's best-selling for a New Age book, but who said it's best-selling in a general sense (e.g. The New York Times Bestsellers list)?
If you want to make the narrower case that this book sold well relative to other New Age books that's certainly an option. It might be more straightforward to simply avoid the topic of sales altogether.
CaseyPenk (talk) 22:14, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I have no trouble removing "bestselling" as a description of the book, since the book's sales are numerically listed, and anyone can see that the book was a big success for Andrews. Binksternet (talk) 23:06, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good sans the bestselling. Thus:
  • ALT1a: ... that Ted AndrewsTemplate:` book Animal Speak aims to help the reader learn how "to listen with animal ears and to see through animal eyes"?
This is good to go. CaseyPenk (talk) 16:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Now that a hook (labeled ALT1a) has been settled upon, article needs a full DYK review. (I've struck the other hooks to avoid confusion.) BlueMoonset (talk) 02:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Everything checks out. Minor tweaks made, and a more major one, that Bink will hate me for: I trimmed the bibliography. Pass it on. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)