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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 07:33, 31 January 2017 (UTC)<br />
 
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====The Palace Restaurant and Saloon====
 
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* ... that the oldest bar in Arizona, '''[[The Palace Restaurant and Saloon]]''' in Prescott, played host to [[Wyatt Earp]] and [[Doc Holliday]] in the late 1870s before they moved on to Tombstone?<small>Source: "... numbers Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday and Steve McQueen as satisfied customers."[http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/world/yippee-kiyay-from-arizona-the-heart-of-the-american-southwest-35036236.html], "... whose patrons included Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday."[http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/insight/2008/12/28/PHOENIX.ART_ART_12-28-08_G1_QNCAL2M.html???%20AnalyticsContent%5B1%5D/Uri], "He did kill a couple of men in gunfights out in back of The Palace. And Doc Holliday stabbed one belligerent miner to death"[http://www.quadcitiesbusinessnews.com/oldest-bar-arizona-still-celebrating/]</small>
 
* ... that the oldest bar in Arizona, '''[[The Palace Restaurant and Saloon]]''' in Prescott, played host to [[Wyatt Earp]] and [[Doc Holliday]] in the late 1870s before they moved on to Tombstone?<small>Source: "... numbers Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday and Steve McQueen as satisfied customers."[http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/world/yippee-kiyay-from-arizona-the-heart-of-the-american-southwest-35036236.html], "... whose patrons included Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday."[http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/insight/2008/12/28/PHOENIX.ART_ART_12-28-08_G1_QNCAL2M.html???%20AnalyticsContent%5B1%5D/Uri], "He did kill a couple of men in gunfights out in back of The Palace. And Doc Holliday stabbed one belligerent miner to death"[http://www.quadcitiesbusinessnews.com/oldest-bar-arizona-still-celebrating/]</small>
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Tukwila International Boulevard station|Tukwila International Boulevard station]]
 
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<small>Created by [[User:Onel5969|Onel5969]] ([[User talk:Onel5969|talk]]). Self-nominated at 01:21, 14 January 2017 (UTC).</small>
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:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] This article is certainly long enough, and was nominated for DYK on the same day it was created, satisfying length and time criteria. QPQ is underway, as a review has been done but the target article has not yet been promoted. The text refers to "underground den", but the source states "underground jail"; is 'den' a regional synonym for 'jail'? The source for Big Nose Kate ([http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/trips-and-breaks/breathtaking-scenery-in-and-awesome-surprises-in-arizona-684660 here]) states that she 'worked' at the hotel, only implying prostitution; it doesn't actually state it (perhaps also link source 10, which states prostitutes worked upstairs). Source 12 is titled ''Prescott Ready for the 6th Annual "Boot Drop"'' but links to ''The Bird Cage on Whiskey Row'', which doesn't support the claim made about the "Boot Drop". I'll accept the "Entrepreneur" citation despite its click-bait appearance, as it provides sources for its claims. The sentence "The bar is 24 feet long, made of solid oak, which are hand-carved and also contain large columns." seems to be missing something; what does "which" refer to? The hook is fine, though it contains info from several different sentences in the article, for which you are missing a citation in one (the bit about Tombstone, and the 1870s aren't mentioned in the article; the dates 1877 and 1883 that are mentioned leave a notable gap). BTW: I think there's potential for other catchy hooks, such as the bar patrons moving the bar across the street during a fire. Overall, only minor issues to address. <font color="#8b4513">[[User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><font color="#ee8811">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</font> 23:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] This article is certainly long enough, and was nominated for DYK on the same day it was created, satisfying length and time criteria. QPQ is underway, as a review has been done but the target article has not yet been promoted. The text refers to "underground den", but the source states "underground jail"; is 'den' a regional synonym for 'jail'? The source for Big Nose Kate ([http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/trips-and-breaks/breathtaking-scenery-in-and-awesome-surprises-in-arizona-684660 here]) states that she 'worked' at the hotel, only implying prostitution; it doesn't actually state it (perhaps also link source 10, which states prostitutes worked upstairs). Source 12 is titled ''Prescott Ready for the 6th Annual "Boot Drop"'' but links to ''The Bird Cage on Whiskey Row'', which doesn't support the claim made about the "Boot Drop". I'll accept the "Entrepreneur" citation despite its click-bait appearance, as it provides sources for its claims. The sentence "The bar is 24 feet long, made of solid oak, which are hand-carved and also contain large columns." seems to be missing something; what does "which" refer to? The hook is fine, though it contains info from several different sentences in the article, for which you are missing a citation in one (the bit about Tombstone, and the 1870s aren't mentioned in the article; the dates 1877 and 1883 that are mentioned leave a notable gap). BTW: I think there's potential for other catchy hooks, such as the bar patrons moving the bar across the street during a fire. Overall, only minor issues to address. [[User:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[User_talk:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#ee8811;">matrix</span>]] 23:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 
::: Hi {{u|Mindmatrix}}, and thanks for the input. Jail is correct, I incorrectly used the same word is the preceding clause "opium den" (fixed now). Added the supporting cite for prostitution. Fixed link re: Boot Drop (duh). Fixed grammar regarding bar description. Clarified the period when the Earps were there (with cite). I agree with you regarding the bar rescue, but felt that, in order to comply with the wide scope requirement of dyk, that more folks would be interested about something to do with the Earps and Holliday. [[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 00:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 
::: Hi {{u|Mindmatrix}}, and thanks for the input. Jail is correct, I incorrectly used the same word is the preceding clause "opium den" (fixed now). Added the supporting cite for prostitution. Fixed link re: Boot Drop (duh). Fixed grammar regarding bar description. Clarified the period when the Earps were there (with cite). I agree with you regarding the bar rescue, but felt that, in order to comply with the wide scope requirement of dyk, that more folks would be interested about something to do with the Earps and Holliday. [[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 00:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] {{ping|Onel5969}} You've addressed everything but the issue with the 1870s, but I've filled that in for you. One other minor issue I noticed: some of the webcitation.org links are failing for me, but the original sources are available (eg - "Belly up to the bar"). Are these necessary? This doesn't need to be fixed for DYK, but should probably be addressed. GTG, with the caveat that you follow up on anything that may pop up in your QPQ review at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Tukwila International Boulevard station]]. <font color="#8b4513">[[User:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><font color="#ee8811">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</font> 01:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
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::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] {{ping|Onel5969}} You've addressed everything but the issue with the 1870s, but I've filled that in for you. One other minor issue I noticed: some of the webcitation.org links are failing for me, but the original sources are available (eg - "Belly up to the bar"). Are these necessary? This doesn't need to be fixed for DYK, but should probably be addressed. GTG, with the caveat that you follow up on anything that may pop up in your QPQ review at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Tukwila International Boulevard station]]. [[User:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[User_talk:Mindmatrix|<span style="color:#ee8811;">matrix</span>]] 01:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
 
 
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Latest revision as of 11:07, 28 January 2019

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:33, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

The Palace Restaurant and Saloon

  • ... that the oldest bar in Arizona, The Palace Restaurant and Saloon in Prescott, played host to Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday in the late 1870s before they moved on to Tombstone?Source: "... numbers Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday and Steve McQueen as satisfied customers."[1], "... whose patrons included Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday."[2], "He did kill a couple of men in gunfights out in back of The Palace. And Doc Holliday stabbed one belligerent miner to death"[3]

Created by Onel5969 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:21, 14 January 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is certainly long enough, and was nominated for DYK on the same day it was created, satisfying length and time criteria. QPQ is underway, as a review has been done but the target article has not yet been promoted. The text refers to "underground den", but the source states "underground jail"; is 'den' a regional synonym for 'jail'? The source for Big Nose Kate (here) states that she 'worked' at the hotel, only implying prostitution; it doesn't actually state it (perhaps also link source 10, which states prostitutes worked upstairs). Source 12 is titled Prescott Ready for the 6th Annual "Boot Drop" but links to The Bird Cage on Whiskey Row, which doesn't support the claim made about the "Boot Drop". I'll accept the "Entrepreneur" citation despite its click-bait appearance, as it provides sources for its claims. The sentence "The bar is 24 feet long, made of solid oak, which are hand-carved and also contain large columns." seems to be missing something; what does "which" refer to? The hook is fine, though it contains info from several different sentences in the article, for which you are missing a citation in one (the bit about Tombstone, and the 1870s aren't mentioned in the article; the dates 1877 and 1883 that are mentioned leave a notable gap). BTW: I think there's potential for other catchy hooks, such as the bar patrons moving the bar across the street during a fire. Overall, only minor issues to address. Mindmatrix 23:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Template:U, and thanks for the input. Jail is correct, I incorrectly used the same word is the preceding clause "opium den" (fixed now). Added the supporting cite for prostitution. Fixed link re: Boot Drop (duh). Fixed grammar regarding bar description. Clarified the period when the Earps were there (with cite). I agree with you regarding the bar rescue, but felt that, in order to comply with the wide scope requirement of dyk, that more folks would be interested about something to do with the Earps and Holliday. Onel5969 TT me 00:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Template:Ping You've addressed everything but the issue with the 1870s, but I've filled that in for you. One other minor issue I noticed: some of the webcitation.org links are failing for me, but the original sources are available (eg - "Belly up to the bar"). Are these necessary? This doesn't need to be fixed for DYK, but should probably be addressed. GTG, with the caveat that you follow up on anything that may pop up in your QPQ review at Template:Did you know nominations/Tukwila International Boulevard station. Mindmatrix 01:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)