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:::::::::::::::* Thanks, {{u|DarTar}}! Can you please help me address {{u|Yoninah}}'s concerns? I think we just need sources for ALT1 and to reduce the PR tone of [[Black Birders Week]]. Thanks! [[User:Gthh|Gthh]] ([[User talk:Gthh|talk]]) 16:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::::::::::::* Thanks, {{u|DarTar}}! Can you please help me address {{u|Yoninah}}'s concerns? I think we just need sources for ALT1 and to reduce the PR tone of [[Black Birders Week]]. Thanks! [[User:Gthh|Gthh]] ([[User talk:Gthh|talk]]) 16:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::::::::::::* {{ping|Gthh|Yoninah}} the only statement from ALT1 that requires citations in the target article, as far as I can see, is "an effort to highlight the challenges faced by black nature enthusiasts". This looks the most solid and comprehensive source we could use: [https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/black-birders-week-black-in-stem-christian-cooper-scn-trnd/index.html] If that looks good I will briefly expand the article and use this as a reference, I will also take a pass at the overall tone. --[[User:DarTar|DarTar]] ([[User talk:DarTar|talk]]) 17:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::::::::::::* {{ping|Gthh|Yoninah}} the only statement from ALT1 that requires citations in the target article, as far as I can see, is "an effort to highlight the challenges faced by black nature enthusiasts". This looks the most solid and comprehensive source we could use: [https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/black-birders-week-black-in-stem-christian-cooper-scn-trnd/index.html] If that looks good I will briefly expand the article and use this as a reference, I will also take a pass at the overall tone. --[[User:DarTar|DarTar]] ([[User talk:DarTar|talk]]) 17:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::::::::::::* I tried to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Birders_Week&type=revision&diff=970314709&oldid=970160961&diffmode=source address] the above concerns, the rest of the article looks pretty factual to me and is ready to go as far as I am concerned.--[[User:DarTar|DarTar]] ([[User talk:DarTar|talk]]) 15:48, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 
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Revision as of 15:48, 30 July 2020

Black Birders Week, Earyn McGee, Corina Newsome

Earyn McGee in 2020
Earyn McGee in 2020
  • ... that ornithologist Corina Newsome and herpetologist Earyn McGee (pictured) held events as part of the inaugural Black Birders Week, an effort to celebrate black nature enthusiasts? Source: The scientific specialties are cited in the first lines of their respective articles. Participation in events is cited in the last sentence of the first paragraph of the 2020 Series section in Black Birders Week. The aim of the movement is cited in the opening sentence of the same article.

Created by Gthh (talk) (McGee and Newsome) and DarTar (talk) (event). Nominated by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) at 23:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment: I’d like to make sure activist Anna Gifty Opoku-Agyeman is credited and included in the list, not only because she created the event, but also because she was the target of a vicious attempt to erase her name from the list of organizers by an anonymous account who flagged all articles for deletion.—DarTar (talk) 03:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg These three articles are new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the hook facts are cited inline, the articles are neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Three QPQs have been done. Template:Ping They are nice articles, but oversourced; you don't need multiple references to cite uncontroversial facts. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I cannot in good conscience promote articles like these to the main page when they are filled with excessive citations. I removed the uncontroversial cites from the lead in the first two articles and would appreciate your doing the same in Corina Newsome. In the body of these articles, if a sentence can be verified by one source, please use one source. If two, then two. But not eight or nine. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping I have also removed citations from the lead as you suggested . Gthh (talk) 18:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Template:U. Corina Newsome now looks good but the other 2 articles still have excessive citations. Additionally, the rationale of Black Birders Week is stated in the lead as Template:Tq, but none of that is sourced or explained in the article. The only rationale given in the body of the article is Template:Tq. Basically, this article reads like a fluff piece focusing on media coverage, and the hooks as a result are also rather promotional. ALT1 is unsourced and ALT0 has a distinctly PR tone to it (Template:Tq). Yoninah (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • All three articles now look good to me. Gthh (talk) 13:53, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping please see my previous post. The article and hooks have not yet been sorted. Yoninah (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping Sorry, I thought I had addressed everything. By hooks did you mean links to Twitter/Instagram? Those have now been removed. I have also added more detail to the article about the event and response. Can you please clarify what you mean by ALT1 and ALT0? Also, can you please let me know if there is anything else to fix? Thanks! Gthh (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping I need to go offline for another 24 hours, so I will check your edits to the article then. The hooks are numbered at the top of this thread, ALT0 and ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 15:18, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping Hey folks, thanks so much for working on this, I haven't been able to contribute much but if there's anything I can do to help get this across the line, please let me know.--DarTar (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping the only statement from ALT1 that requires citations in the target article, as far as I can see, is "an effort to highlight the challenges faced by black nature enthusiasts". This looks the most solid and comprehensive source we could use: [1] If that looks good I will briefly expand the article and use this as a reference, I will also take a pass at the overall tone. --DarTar (talk) 17:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  • I tried to address the above concerns, the rest of the article looks pretty factual to me and is ready to go as far as I am concerned.--DarTar (talk) 15:48, 30 July 2020 (UTC)