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*... that there are no rules against rotational lifts, in which the woman lifts the man, in the [[International Skating Union]]'s rules regarding the '''[[competition elements in ice dance]]'''? <small> [https://web.archive.org/web/20171106105909/http://www.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120713&content_id=34870028&vkey=ice_news] Source: ''Icenetwork.com''</small>
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*... that there are no rules against reverse rotational lifts, in which the woman lifts the man, in the [[International Skating Union]]'s rules regarding the '''[[competition elements in ice dance]]'''? <small> [https://web.archive.org/web/20171106105909/http://www.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120713&content_id=34870028&vkey=ice_news] Source: ''Icenetwork.com''</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that according to [[International Skating Union|the governing body]] over [[figure skating]], which makes decisions regarding the '''[[competition elements in ice dance]]''', lying on the ice is an illegal move? <small>[https://www.isu.org/inside-single-pair-skating-ice-dance/figure-skating-rules/regulations-rules-fs/file] Source: ''ISU''</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that according to [[International Skating Union|the governing body]] over [[figure skating]], which makes decisions regarding the '''[[competition elements in ice dance]]''', lying on the ice is an illegal move? <small>[https://www.isu.org/inside-single-pair-skating-ice-dance/figure-skating-rules/regulations-rules-fs/file] Source: ''ISU''</small>
 
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] New and long enough, within policy, QPQ done, Earwig finds no copyvios.  Normally an article should have more secondary sources, but given the topic I think it's okay for DYK.  According to the source, a woman lifting a man is a "reverse lift", not a "rotational lift"; the hook and article need to be corrected. [[User:Antony-22|Antony&ndash;'''''22''''']] (<sup>[[User talk:Antony-22|talk]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Antony-22|contribs]]</sub>) 23:53, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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New and long enough, within policy, QPQ done, Earwig finds no copyvios.  Normally an article should have more secondary sources, but given the topic I think it's okay for DYK.  According to the source, a woman lifting a man is a "reverse lift", not a "rotational lift"; the hook and article need to be corrected. [[User:Antony-22|Antony&ndash;'''''22''''']]
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(<sup>[[User talk:Antony-22|talk]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Antony-22|contribs]]</sub>) 23:53, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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:: {{edit conflict}} These are minor but, the proper hook format starts with an ellipsis (...) rather than the words "did you know", and there were some capitalization issues in the hooks above.  [[User:Mandarax]] just fixed them before I could.  :-) Also, the hooks could be shortened.  I'd suggest the following.  [[User:Antony-22|Antony&ndash;'''''22''''']] (<sup>[[User talk:Antony-22|talk]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Antony-22|contribs]]</sub>) 00:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:: {{edit conflict}} These are minor but, the proper hook format starts with an ellipsis (...) rather than the words "did you know", and there were some capitalization issues in the hooks above.  [[User:Mandarax]] just fixed them before I could.  :-) Also, the hooks could be shortened.  I'd suggest the following.  [[User:Antony-22|Antony&ndash;'''''22''''']] (<sup>[[User talk:Antony-22|talk]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Antony-22|contribs]]</sub>) 00:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:: * '''ALT0b''': ... that there are no rules against reverse lifts, in which the woman lifts the man, as '''[[competition elements in ice dance]]'''?
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:: * '''ALT0b''': ... that there are no rules against reverse rotational lifts, in which the woman lifts the man, as '''[[competition elements in ice dance]]'''?
 
:: * '''ALT1b''': ... that lying on the ice is an illegal '''[[competition elements in ice dance|competition element in ice dance]]'''?
 
:: * '''ALT1b''': ... that lying on the ice is an illegal '''[[competition elements in ice dance|competition element in ice dance]]'''?
 
:::Thanks, Antony-22.  Thanks for understanding about the primary sources; without them, which are really the best sources to use for figure skating, we'd have no articles because...well, figure skating isn't written about much in the press, and when it is (during the Olympics), they don't go into the kind of depth necessary for encyclopedia articles.  Speaking of, the ISU calls this lift a rotational lift, but many newspaper reports call them reverse lifts.  Perhaps at one point that was the technical term, but currently the correct term is rotational lift.  I chose to use the correct term rather than depend upon the source's description, which is incorrect.  The other thing that often happens with figure skating writing is that reporters use the more popular term rather than the correct, technical one.  For those reasons, I ask that the hook stand as is. If you like, we can hook 2 to keep things simple.[[User:Figureskatingfan|Christine (Figureskatingfan)]] ([[User talk:Figureskatingfan|talk]]) 04:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks, Antony-22.  Thanks for understanding about the primary sources; without them, which are really the best sources to use for figure skating, we'd have no articles because...well, figure skating isn't written about much in the press, and when it is (during the Olympics), they don't go into the kind of depth necessary for encyclopedia articles.  Speaking of, the ISU calls this lift a rotational lift, but many newspaper reports call them reverse lifts.  Perhaps at one point that was the technical term, but currently the correct term is rotational lift.  I chose to use the correct term rather than depend upon the source's description, which is incorrect.  The other thing that often happens with figure skating writing is that reporters use the more popular term rather than the correct, technical one.  For those reasons, I ask that the hook stand as is. If you like, we can hook 2 to keep things simple.[[User:Figureskatingfan|Christine (Figureskatingfan)]] ([[User talk:Figureskatingfan|talk]]) 04:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::{{Ping|Figureskatingfan}} Can you point to a reference where it's referred to as a rotational lift?  From the cited source, I get the feeling that "rotational lift" means a lift where the dancers are rotating.  But, as you said, it could be an unreliable source.  [[User:Antony-22|Antony&ndash;'''''22''''']] (<sup>[[User talk:Antony-22|talk]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Antony-22|contribs]]</sub>) 05:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::{{Ping|Figureskatingfan}} Can you point to a reference where it's referred to as a rotational lift?  From the cited source, I get the feeling that "rotational lift" means a lift where the dancers are rotating.  But, as you said, it could be an unreliable source.  [[User:Antony-22|Antony&ndash;'''''22''''']] (<sup>[[User talk:Antony-22|talk]]</sup>⁄<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Antony-22|contribs]]</sub>) 05:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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::::::I did some more looking around, and I wasn't entirely accurate.  It's both; the correct term should be a reverse rotational lift.  Changing hook now. [[User:Figureskatingfan|Christine (Figureskatingfan)]] ([[User talk:Figureskatingfan|talk]]) 18:43, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
  
 
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Competition elements in ice dance

A rotational lift, performed by Canadians Federica Faiella and Massimo Scali
A rotational lift, performed by Canadians Federica Faiella and Massimo Scali

Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 22:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC).

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New and long enough, within policy, QPQ done, Earwig finds no copyvios. Normally an article should have more secondary sources, but given the topic I think it's okay for DYK. According to the source, a woman lifting a man is a "reverse lift", not a "rotational lift"; the hook and article need to be corrected. Antony–22

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(edit conflict) These are minor but, the proper hook format starts with an ellipsis (...) rather than the words "did you know", and there were some capitalization issues in the hooks above. User:Mandarax just fixed them before I could. :-) Also, the hooks could be shortened. I'd suggest the following. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 00:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
* ALT0b: ... that there are no rules against reverse rotational lifts, in which the woman lifts the man, as competition elements in ice dance?
* ALT1b: ... that lying on the ice is an illegal competition element in ice dance?
Thanks, Antony-22. Thanks for understanding about the primary sources; without them, which are really the best sources to use for figure skating, we'd have no articles because...well, figure skating isn't written about much in the press, and when it is (during the Olympics), they don't go into the kind of depth necessary for encyclopedia articles. Speaking of, the ISU calls this lift a rotational lift, but many newspaper reports call them reverse lifts. Perhaps at one point that was the technical term, but currently the correct term is rotational lift. I chose to use the correct term rather than depend upon the source's description, which is incorrect. The other thing that often happens with figure skating writing is that reporters use the more popular term rather than the correct, technical one. For those reasons, I ask that the hook stand as is. If you like, we can hook 2 to keep things simple.Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Template:Ping Can you point to a reference where it's referred to as a rotational lift? From the cited source, I get the feeling that "rotational lift" means a lift where the dancers are rotating. But, as you said, it could be an unreliable source. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 05:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
I did some more looking around, and I wasn't entirely accurate. It's both; the correct term should be a reverse rotational lift. Changing hook now. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:43, 10 August 2018 (UTC)