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* ... that '''[[Eddie Gallagher (Navy SEAL)|Eddie Gallagher]]''', a [[United States Navy SEALs|Navy SEAL]] accused of murder, was transferred to "less restrictive confinement" by direct presidential intervention, the first such transfer since [[William Calley]]'s in 1971?  <small>Transfer: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111965027483951105 .  First since 1971: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-crime-pardons-could-be-his-most-nixonian-moment-yet/2019/05/20/c212d954-7b19-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html  It's an opinion piece but similar insights are elsewhere on the Internet, so not novel synthesis.</small>
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* ... that '''[[Eddie Gallagher (Navy SEAL)|Eddie Gallagher]]''', a [[United States Navy SEALs|Navy SEAL]] who had been accused of murder, was transferred to "less restrictive confinement" by direct presidential intervention, the first such transfer since [[William Calley]]'s in 1971?  <small>Transfer: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111965027483951105 .  First since 1971: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-crime-pardons-could-be-his-most-nixonian-moment-yet/2019/05/20/c212d954-7b19-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html  It's an opinion piece but similar insights are elsewhere on the Internet, so not novel synthesis.</small>
** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Eddie Gallagher (Navy SEAL)|Eddie Gallagher]]''', a [[United States Navy SEALs|Navy SEAL]] accused of murder, was transferred to "less restrictive confinement" by direct presidential intervention?  <small>Same source as above</small>
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** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Eddie Gallagher (Navy SEAL)|Eddie Gallagher]]''', a [[United States Navy SEALs|Navy SEAL]] who had been accused of murder, was transferred to "less restrictive confinement" by direct presidential intervention?  <small>Same source as above</small>
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Lawrence Minard|Lawrence Minard]]
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Lawrence Minard|Lawrence Minard]]
 
:* ''Comment'': ALT1 is the same but shorter, although it misses one interesting fact.  Note: Considering the accusations at hand, I'd like to avoid a "via Twitter" hook, suggesting it was due to Fox & Friends lobbying, or anything that's too playful.  Best keep this entry serious.
 
:* ''Comment'': ALT1 is the same but shorter, although it misses one interesting fact.  Note: Considering the accusations at hand, I'd like to avoid a "via Twitter" hook, suggesting it was due to Fox & Friends lobbying, or anything that's too playful.  Best keep this entry serious.
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::* I have no idea how long the court martial will take.  I agree it'd be nice to know the conclusion - this article was originally timed such that if President Trump had indeed made a dramatic Memorial Day pardon, it would have been ready to go on the spot.  That didn't happen, and the trial was delayed, so who knows.  I suspect we may have a "a watched pot never boils" problem here; once we run the hook, the trial will probably conclude the next day, regardless of when the hook is ran. :( [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 18:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::* I have no idea how long the court martial will take.  I agree it'd be nice to know the conclusion - this article was originally timed such that if President Trump had indeed made a dramatic Memorial Day pardon, it would have been ready to go on the spot.  That didn't happen, and the trial was delayed, so who knows.  I suspect we may have a "a watched pot never boils" problem here; once we run the hook, the trial will probably conclude the next day, regardless of when the hook is ran. :( [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 18:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 
:::*He was just found [https://www.foxnews.com/us/navy-seal-edward-gallagher-found-not-guilty-on-murder-and-attempted-murder-charges not guilty] of most of the charges against him. The article should be updated. Does this affect the hook in any way? [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 22:31, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 
:::*He was just found [https://www.foxnews.com/us/navy-seal-edward-gallagher-found-not-guilty-on-murder-and-attempted-murder-charges not guilty] of most of the charges against him. The article should be updated. Does this affect the hook in any way? [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 22:31, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::* {{ping|Yoninah}} Article has been updated.  Yes, it does, mostly in updating the tenses to make clear he's no longer (legally) accused of murder.  I've done the above ({{ping|Cwmhiraeth}} if you want to take a look).  We could also do a more ITN-y hook here than a DYK-ish one, and have something like:
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:* '''ALT2''':... that '''[[Eddie Gallagher (Navy SEAL)|Eddie Gallagher]]''', a [[United States Navy SEALs|Navy SEAL]], was just acquitted of murder partially due to a surprise confession by a witness claiming he was the murderer himself?"
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::::* I am fine with keeping the original hook though, to be clear, just throwing this out there. [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 01:00, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 
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Eddie Gallagher (soldier)

  • Reviewed: Lawrence Minard
  • Comment: ALT1 is the same but shorter, although it misses one interesting fact. Note: Considering the accusations at hand, I'd like to avoid a "via Twitter" hook, suggesting it was due to Fox & Friends lobbying, or anything that's too playful. Best keep this entry serious.

Created by SnowFire (talk). Self-nominated at 04:34, 27 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This interesting article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. A QPQ has been done. How long is the court-martial likely to take? It would be better to run this, suitably updated, after its conclusion I would have thought. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:07, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I have no idea how long the court martial will take. I agree it'd be nice to know the conclusion - this article was originally timed such that if President Trump had indeed made a dramatic Memorial Day pardon, it would have been ready to go on the spot. That didn't happen, and the trial was delayed, so who knows. I suspect we may have a "a watched pot never boils" problem here; once we run the hook, the trial will probably conclude the next day, regardless of when the hook is ran. :( SnowFire (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
  • He was just found not guilty of most of the charges against him. The article should be updated. Does this affect the hook in any way? Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping Article has been updated. Yes, it does, mostly in updating the tenses to make clear he's no longer (legally) accused of murder. I've done the above (Template:Ping if you want to take a look). We could also do a more ITN-y hook here than a DYK-ish one, and have something like:
  • ALT2:... that Eddie Gallagher, a Navy SEAL, was just acquitted of murder partially due to a surprise confession by a witness claiming he was the murderer himself?"
  • I am fine with keeping the original hook though, to be clear, just throwing this out there. SnowFire (talk) 01:00, 3 July 2019 (UTC)