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* <s>... that Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' discovered a [[Tjele helmet fragment|Viking helmet]] 130 years after it was placed in a museum?</s>  <small>Munksgaard 1984, p. 87: "The object has for 130 years led an unnoticed existence in our public galleries until I stumbled on it two years ago. And it is quite true that the best finds are often made not in the field, but in the museums. This wing-shaped opject is not a saddle mounting, but the eyebrows and nose-guard of a helmet, made of iron and bronze."</small>
 
* <s>... that Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' discovered a [[Tjele helmet fragment|Viking helmet]] 130 years after it was placed in a museum?</s>  <small>Munksgaard 1984, p. 87: "The object has for 130 years led an unnoticed existence in our public galleries until I stumbled on it two years ago. And it is quite true that the best finds are often made not in the field, but in the museums. This wing-shaped opject is not a saddle mounting, but the eyebrows and nose-guard of a helmet, made of iron and bronze."</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':<s>... that Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' was ushered into retirement by an [[Cnut the Great|eleventh century king]]?</s>  <small>Jørgensen 1998, p. 6: ""she argued that several of the Mammen textile remains could be parallelled in details of the 1031 drawing of King Canute in the Liber Vitae. About the time of her writing this paper, the Draper's Guild of Copenhagen offered to fund the reconstruction of a costume based on the twin sources. It took two years and the united efforts of seven skilled craftspeople, a textile conservator and two textile archaeologists, but in May 1990, shortly before Elisabeth's retirement, the magnificent result was presented to the public: King Canute in all his splendour. It was a memorable event and a fine finale to Elisabeth Munksgaard's academic career. "</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':<s>... that Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' was ushered into retirement by an [[Cnut the Great|eleventh century king]]?</s>  <small>Jørgensen 1998, p. 6: ""she argued that several of the Mammen textile remains could be parallelled in details of the 1031 drawing of King Canute in the Liber Vitae. About the time of her writing this paper, the Draper's Guild of Copenhagen offered to fund the reconstruction of a costume based on the twin sources. It took two years and the united efforts of seven skilled craftspeople, a textile conservator and two textile archaeologists, but in May 1990, shortly before Elisabeth's retirement, the magnificent result was presented to the public: King Canute in all his splendour. It was a memorable event and a fine finale to Elisabeth Munksgaard's academic career. "</small>
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:* ''Comment'': Created last month by me, expanded last week by {{ping|Ipigott}} for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/00|#1day1woman]]. Might be a day late, but its a new article on a little-known historian with some significant contributions.
 
:* ''Comment'': Created last month by me, expanded last week by {{ping|Ipigott}} for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/00|#1day1woman]]. Might be a day late, but its a new article on a little-known historian with some significant contributions.
 
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) and [[User:Ipigott|Ipigott]] ([[User talk:Ipigott|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) at 10:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) and [[User:Ipigott|Ipigott]] ([[User talk:Ipigott|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) at 10:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC).</small>
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: [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Interesting life, on few but good sources, Danish and offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The ALT is a good idea, but a bit too quirky for my taste, - how about something mentioning splendid finale of her career, - "ushered to retirement" sounds as if the old king still had influence ;) - Article: How do you feel about an infobox? Can you integrate the first (lead) section in the chronology, and then summarize the whole article in the lead? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 
: [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Interesting life, on few but good sources, Danish and offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The ALT is a good idea, but a bit too quirky for my taste, - how about something mentioning splendid finale of her career, - "ushered to retirement" sounds as if the old king still had influence ;) - Article: How do you feel about an infobox? Can you integrate the first (lead) section in the chronology, and then summarize the whole article in the lead? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  
 
:: Thanks {{ping|Gerda Arendt}}! Added an infobox, and will work on revising the lead and chronology later today or tomorrow. Here are some alts.
 
:: Thanks {{ping|Gerda Arendt}}! Added an infobox, and will work on revising the lead and chronology later today or tomorrow. Here are some alts.
:::'''ALT2:''' ... with "[[Cnut the Great|King Canute]] in all his splendour," the retirement ceremony for Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' validated a theory she had proposed a quarter-century earlier?
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:::'''ALT2:''' <s>... with "[[Cnut the Great|King Canute]] in all his splendour," the retirement ceremony for Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' validated a theory she had proposed a quarter-century earlier?</s>
:::'''ALT3:''' ... that Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' was given a "splendid" retirement ceremony with a costumed [[Cnut the Great|eleventh century king]]?
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:::'''ALT3:''' <s>... that Danish historian '''[[Elisabeth Munksgaard]]''' was given a "splendid" retirement ceremony with a costumed [[Cnut the Great|eleventh-century king]]?</s>
 
:::(technically "splendour" is in the source, not "splendid," but alteration is minimal)
 
:::(technically "splendour" is in the source, not "splendid," but alteration is minimal)
:::: [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] Thank you for the ALTs. I prefer ALT3 as easier to understand. Strictly speaking, the nomination is late, but it's sufficient new information on a good subject for me to approve. When you integrate the lead narration and write more lead, you may get closer to a solid 5* expansion, or even make it. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:01, 13 August 2017 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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:::: [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] Thank you for the ALTs. I prefer ALT3 as easier to understand. Strictly speaking, the nomination is late, but it's sufficient new information on a good subject for me to approve. When you integrate the lead narration and write more lead, you may get closer to a solid 5* expansion, or even make it. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:01, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Pulling back from prep, and striking both ALT2 and ALT3. The facts for both hooks are nowhere in the article, a requirement for DYK, and one which both [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] as approver and [[User:Alex Shih|Alex Shih]] as promoter should have checked. (It's not enough to be in a source somewhere; it needs to be in the article and sourced.) Further, it is ''not'' okay to change a quoted word, and "splendid" cannot be quoted in ALT3 if that hook is eventually resurrected by adding material to the article. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 18:20, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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Elisabeth Munksgaard

  • ... that Danish historian Elisabeth Munksgaard discovered a Viking helmet 130 years after it was placed in a museum? Munksgaard 1984, p. 87: "The object has for 130 years led an unnoticed existence in our public galleries until I stumbled on it two years ago. And it is quite true that the best finds are often made not in the field, but in the museums. This wing-shaped opject is not a saddle mounting, but the eyebrows and nose-guard of a helmet, made of iron and bronze."
    • ALT1:... that Danish historian Elisabeth Munksgaard was ushered into retirement by an eleventh century king? Jørgensen 1998, p. 6: ""she argued that several of the Mammen textile remains could be parallelled in details of the 1031 drawing of King Canute in the Liber Vitae. About the time of her writing this paper, the Draper's Guild of Copenhagen offered to fund the reconstruction of a costume based on the twin sources. It took two years and the united efforts of seven skilled craftspeople, a textile conservator and two textile archaeologists, but in May 1990, shortly before Elisabeth's retirement, the magnificent result was presented to the public: King Canute in all his splendour. It was a memorable event and a fine finale to Elisabeth Munksgaard's academic career. "
  • Reviewed: Diopatra cuprea
  • Comment: Created last month by me, expanded last week by Template:Ping for #1day1woman. Might be a day late, but its a new article on a little-known historian with some significant contributions.

5x expanded by Usernameunique (talk) and Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Usernameunique (talk) at 10:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting life, on few but good sources, Danish and offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The ALT is a good idea, but a bit too quirky for my taste, - how about something mentioning splendid finale of her career, - "ushered to retirement" sounds as if the old king still had influence ;) - Article: How do you feel about an infobox? Can you integrate the first (lead) section in the chronology, and then summarize the whole article in the lead? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Template:Ping! Added an infobox, and will work on revising the lead and chronology later today or tomorrow. Here are some alts.
ALT2: ... with "King Canute in all his splendour," the retirement ceremony for Danish historian Elisabeth Munksgaard validated a theory she had proposed a quarter-century earlier?
ALT3: ... that Danish historian Elisabeth Munksgaard was given a "splendid" retirement ceremony with a costumed eleventh-century king?
(technically "splendour" is in the source, not "splendid," but alteration is minimal)
Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you for the ALTs. I prefer ALT3 as easier to understand. Strictly speaking, the nomination is late, but it's sufficient new information on a good subject for me to approve. When you integrate the lead narration and write more lead, you may get closer to a solid 5* expansion, or even make it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Pulling back from prep, and striking both ALT2 and ALT3. The facts for both hooks are nowhere in the article, a requirement for DYK, and one which both Gerda Arendt as approver and Alex Shih as promoter should have checked. (It's not enough to be in a source somewhere; it needs to be in the article and sourced.) Further, it is not okay to change a quoted word, and "splendid" cannot be quoted in ALT3 if that hook is eventually resurrected by adding material to the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:20, 13 August 2017 (UTC)