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Both are rather, possibly equally, trivial, but ALT2 is better written. ALT1 reworded might be okay, but all things considered, the better writing of ALT2 should be preferred. --[[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11|2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11|talk]]) 23:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 
Both are rather, possibly equally, trivial, but ALT2 is better written. ALT1 reworded might be okay, but all things considered, the better writing of ALT2 should be preferred. --[[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11|2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11|talk]]) 23:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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:I was thinking that such a ''personal'' motive in etymology might be interesting. Perhaps "expressing the hope" is better writing than the current "hoping" of ALT1? [[User:JoJo Eumerus mobile|JoJo Eumerus mobile]] ([[User talk:JoJo Eumerus mobile|talk]]) 12:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 
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Palomo

The volcano viewed from the air
The volcano viewed from the air

5x expanded by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 28 April 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The main issue with this nomination is clearly the hook itself. Two hooks have been merged into one, and the first part about the glacier has nothing to do with the latter part about the secondary summit, so it comes off as disjointed. I would recommend that you remove the first part about the glacier because the second half is more interesting, so it reads as something like "... that a geologist named a secondary summit of Palomo (pictured) volcano after his son, hoping that one day he would get to know the mountains?" Also, the image is not used in the article (which would also need a caption), nor has the nominator satisfied the QPQ (reviewing another DYK nomination). Other than those things, the hook is cited in line in the article, but I would recommend that Andrès be spelled consistently with an è throughout the article. The article itself has been 5x expanded recently enough and is well-cited.-- 20:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Template:Ping I'll added the QPQ. I'll admit, I wasn't myself certain about which factoid may be more interesting so I just kind of doubled them up. So perhaps this one would work (also replacing "summit" with "vent" and "mountains" with "range" - which is what "cordillera" is usually translated to - as more accurate)? Also, for the image, the hook picture is cropped from the article image. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:37, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that a geologist named a secondary vent of Palomo volcano (pictured) after his son, hoping that one day he would get to know the mountain range?
  • Symbol question.svg The ALT1 hook looks good, and thank you for adding the QPQ. However, the cropped image is still technically not used in the article itself. Indeed, why is the much larger view of the Andes mountain range used in the article when you can't even identify Palomo in it without the aid of the crop? I know the caption says it's in the upper left portion, but if you don't know what you're looking for, it's next to impossible to discern. Are there really no other free images of this volcano? If not, I would recommend just using the cropped image in the article, which I see is already being done on three other wikis. And of course, said image still needs a caption in this nomination.-- 20:09, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
    Template:Ping Added caption and changed image. Obscure Andean volcanoes are not the sort of thing where free images are readily forthcoming. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:11, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Everything looks good to go now for ALT1. Thank you for your time and the various corrections.-- 20:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I find the hook rather trivial, being about the future of the son of a non-notable geologist. Is there anything more about the 1847 flood that might provide an interesting hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:02, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
    Template:Ping I don't think so unless someone familiar with Chilean history of that time has an idea. I'd argue that the hook was more centered on the peculiar etymology rather than about the person specifically. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
  • How about
  • ALT2: ... that the secondary vent of the volcano Palomo (pictured) was named after the son of the geologist who explored it? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
    To me that seems an idea boring-er than ALT1. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Well, I don't want to hold it up so I will restore Juhachi's tick, but I think "hoping that one day he would get to know the mountain range" is so trivial and unencyclopedic. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:16, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Both are rather, possibly equally, trivial, but ALT2 is better written. ALT1 reworded might be okay, but all things considered, the better writing of ALT2 should be preferred. --2601:648:8503:4467:BD8D:A6B0:350B:3F11 (talk) 23:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking that such a personal motive in etymology might be interesting. Perhaps "expressing the hope" is better writing than the current "hoping" of ALT1? JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)