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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 06:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... that [[Rudyard Kipling]]'s first novel, '''''[[The Light that Failed]]''''' ''(cover pictured)'', was published in at least four different versions over a period of two years?  <small>Source: {{cite web|last1=Richards|first1=David Alan|title=THE LIGHT THAT FAILED': The Magazine Editions|url=http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/members/corner_light.htm|website=kiplingsociety.co.uk|accessdate=18 February 2017}}</small>
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* ... that [[Rudyard Kipling]]'s first novel, '''''[[The Light That Failed]]''''' ''(cover pictured)'', was published in at least four different versions over a period of two years?  <small>Source: {{cite web|last1=Richards|first1=David Alan|title=THE LIGHT THAT FAILED': The Magazine Editions|url=http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/members/corner_light.htm|website=kiplingsociety.co.uk|accessdate=18 February 2017}}</small>
 
 
:* '''ALT1''': <s>... that [[Rudyard Kipling]]'s first novel, '''''[[The Light That Failed]]''''' ''(cover pictured)'', is derided as sentimental, unstructured, melodramatic, chauvinistic, and implausible? </s> <small>Source: {{cite web|last1=Annis|first1=Geoffrey|title=The Light That Failed: An Introduction|url=http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/rg_light_intro.htm|website=kiplingsociety.co.uk|accessdate=18 February 2017|date=12 February 2008}}</small>
 
:* '''ALT1''': <s>... that [[Rudyard Kipling]]'s first novel, '''''[[The Light That Failed]]''''' ''(cover pictured)'', is derided as sentimental, unstructured, melodramatic, chauvinistic, and implausible? </s> <small>Source: {{cite web|last1=Annis|first1=Geoffrey|title=The Light That Failed: An Introduction|url=http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/rg_light_intro.htm|website=kiplingsociety.co.uk|accessdate=18 February 2017|date=12 February 2008}}</small>
 
:* ''Comment'': This is my 2nd DYK nomination. I've expanded the novel 5x times its previous size (initially created in my userspace sandbox on 18 February 2017).  
 
:* ''Comment'': This is my 2nd DYK nomination. I've expanded the novel 5x times its previous size (initially created in my userspace sandbox on 18 February 2017).  
 
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Ciridae|Ciridae]] ([[User talk:Ciridae|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Ciridae|Ciridae]] ([[User talk:Ciridae|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC).</small>
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: [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Interesting book, on good sources, offline source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Don't you think that a hook about reception would be more attractive than about publishing? - Article: in an article about literature, "The story begins with Dick and Maisie as orphan children" doesn't win my praise ;) - Do we know if they are 10 or 15 then? It would make a difference. - We have "Art" and Art, why not simply art? - I don't think "masculinity" etc need a link. - Please get multiple refs for one fact in ascending order. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 
: [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Interesting book, on good sources, offline source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Don't you think that a hook about reception would be more attractive than about publishing? - Article: in an article about literature, "The story begins with Dick and Maisie as orphan children" doesn't win my praise ;) - Do we know if they are 10 or 15 then? It would make a difference. - We have "Art" and Art, why not simply art? - I don't think "masculinity" etc need a link. - Please get multiple refs for one fact in ascending order. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
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::: [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] thank you, all good. You could just have said "no" to the question about more attractive. I'll watch in case you want to change the ALT to something saying "has been" and quotation marks, or simply "rotten apple", or change the original to saying with both sad and happy endings. The image is licensed, a bit on the unreadable side but a good illustration of the period's style. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:13, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 
::: [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] thank you, all good. You could just have said "no" to the question about more attractive. I'll watch in case you want to change the ALT to something saying "has been" and quotation marks, or simply "rotten apple", or change the original to saying with both sad and happy endings. The image is licensed, a bit on the unreadable side but a good illustration of the period's style. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:13, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
  
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Revision as of 06:19, 6 March 2017

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

The Light That Failed

Cover of the first edition
Cover of the first edition
  • ... that Rudyard Kipling's first novel, The Light that Failed (cover pictured), was published in at least four different versions over a period of two years? Source: Richards, David Alan. "THE LIGHT THAT FAILED': The Magazine Editions". kiplingsociety.co.uk. Retrieved 18 February 2017.
  • ALT1: ... that Rudyard Kipling's first novel, The Light That Failed (cover pictured), is derided as sentimental, unstructured, melodramatic, chauvinistic, and implausible? Source: Annis, Geoffrey (12 February 2008). "The Light That Failed: An Introduction". kiplingsociety.co.uk. Retrieved 18 February 2017.
  • Comment: This is my 2nd DYK nomination. I've expanded the novel 5x times its previous size (initially created in my userspace sandbox on 18 February 2017).

5x expanded by Ciridae (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC).

16px Interesting book, on good sources, offline source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Don't you think that a hook about reception would be more attractive than about publishing? - Article: in an article about literature, "The story begins with Dick and Maisie as orphan children" doesn't win my praise ;) - Do we know if they are 10 or 15 then? It would make a difference. - We have "Art" and Art, why not simply art? - I don't think "masculinity" etc need a link. - Please get multiple refs for one fact in ascending order. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Template:Ping I've re-arranged the refs (for one fact), as requested. I've also kept "Art" as it is in the Plot summary because Kipling refers to it as such repeatedly but I've changed the other to use lower-case. Is that okay? Dick and Maisie's age as children isn't mentioned, unfortunately. "Masculinity" and "Femininity" are important themes in the novel so I think the links are required. I've added an alternate hook, but I'm not really a fan of this one. Ciridae (talk) 12:03, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
16px thank you, all good. You could just have said "no" to the question about more attractive. I'll watch in case you want to change the ALT to something saying "has been" and quotation marks, or simply "rotten apple", or change the original to saying with both sad and happy endings. The image is licensed, a bit on the unreadable side but a good illustration of the period's style. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2017 (UTC)