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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 06:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
 
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* <s>... that the last surviving [[World War II]] Veteran of '''[[149th Armor Regiment|Company C, 194th Tank Battalion]]''' died in June 2013? </s> <small>Source:  [https://www.dvidshub.net/news/113938/last-calif-guard-bataan-death-march-survivors-die "Last Calif. Guard Bataan Death March survivors die"]</small>
 
* <s>... that the last surviving [[World War II]] Veteran of '''[[149th Armor Regiment|Company C, 194th Tank Battalion]]''' died in June 2013? </s> <small>Source:  [https://www.dvidshub.net/news/113938/last-calif-guard-bataan-death-march-survivors-die "Last Calif. Guard Bataan Death March survivors die"]</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':<s>... that due to the surrender of '''[[149th Armor Regiment|Company C, 194th Tank Battalion]]''', [[Salinas, California]] had the highest per capita participation in the [[Bataan Death March]]? </s> <small>Source:  [https://web.archive.org/web/20140525232123/http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20090522/NEWS01/90522029/Memorial-honors-WWII-soldiers "Memorial honors WWII soldiers"]</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':<s>... that due to the surrender of '''[[149th Armor Regiment|Company C, 194th Tank Battalion]]''', [[Salinas, California]] had the highest per capita participation in the [[Bataan Death March]]? </s> <small>Source:  [https://web.archive.org/web/20140525232123/http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20090522/NEWS01/90522029/Memorial-honors-WWII-soldiers "Memorial honors WWII soldiers"]</small>
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:* ''Comment'': Article created in 2012, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=149th_Armor_Regiment&diff=897445739&oldid=897315979 elevated to GA-class] within the past week. Having [[Talk:149th Armor Regiment/GA1|passed a GA Review]] recently the article should meet the rules for DYK. Image is of a painting created for [[National Guard Bureau]], and is in the public domain. I have already met QPQ requirements with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Unwritten_rules_of_baseball&diff=prev&oldid=894018935 this review].
 
:* ''Comment'': Article created in 2012, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=149th_Armor_Regiment&diff=897445739&oldid=897315979 elevated to GA-class] within the past week. Having [[Talk:149th Armor Regiment/GA1|passed a GA Review]] recently the article should meet the rules for DYK. Image is of a painting created for [[National Guard Bureau]], and is in the public domain. I have already met QPQ requirements with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Unwritten_rules_of_baseball&diff=prev&oldid=894018935 this review].
 
<small>Improved to Good Article status by [[User:RightCowLeftCoast|RightCowLeftCoast]] ([[User talk:RightCowLeftCoast|talk]]). Self-nominated at 07:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Improved to Good Article status by [[User:RightCowLeftCoast|RightCowLeftCoast]] ([[User talk:RightCowLeftCoast|talk]]). Self-nominated at 07:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
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:::IMO as the original assessor, no. The point of the hook is that this was the first time that US tanks had fought other tanks ever, anywhere. This seemed clear to me, but if it is not to others then certainly it needs changing l. But ALT5a reads, to me, as if this were merely the first tank v tank clash of the Philippines campaign. [[User:Gog the Mild|Gog the Mild]] ([[User talk:Gog the Mild|talk]]) 21:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 
:::IMO as the original assessor, no. The point of the hook is that this was the first time that US tanks had fought other tanks ever, anywhere. This seemed clear to me, but if it is not to others then certainly it needs changing l. But ALT5a reads, to me, as if this were merely the first tank v tank clash of the Philippines campaign. [[User:Gog the Mild|Gog the Mild]] ([[User talk:Gog the Mild|talk]]) 21:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Oh, now I get it. Adding "ever" to the hooks. Restoring your tick. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 21:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Oh, now I get it. Adding "ever" to the hooks. Restoring your tick. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 21:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Revision as of 06:14, 14 June 2019

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

149th Armor Regiment

149th Armored Regiment coat of arms
149th Armored Regiment coat of arms

Improved to Good Article status by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 07:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC).


  • Rereading I am unsure if it is intended that the image be included in the nom; it has not been referenced in any of the hooks. Template:U, could you clarify? Thanks.
Template:Reply the image is relevant to the subject of the article, but not significantly relevant to the hook, or ALTs 1-3. A more relevant hook to the image would be like
ALT4: ... that the actions of Company C, 194th Tank Battalion near Piis are depicted in a monument at Camp San Luis Obispo? "Camp San Luis Obispo, Bataan Memorial"
If an image is to be used for the hook or ALTs 1-4 a more relevant image is that of the unit coat of arms
--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 00:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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I consider ALT2 to be the "hookiest". How would you feel about:
Template:Reply that's fine. Is the coat of arms image or the National Guard painting image to be utilized?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 15:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

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  • 16px ALT5: ... that the first American tanks to ever engage in combat with enemy tanks were part of the 194th Tank Battalion (emblem pictured) in the Philippines?
  • All covered, good to go. Nothing wrong with the other ALTs, but I think that ALT5 would work best with a general audience. I have removed the commas from it. If non-image hook is preferred, see ALT2. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  • File:Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the first part of the hook seems to be dangling without any explanation as to why American tanks are engaging with enemy tanks. I think the problem is that you are piping the name of the battle to "Philippines", which is unclear to those of us who aren't familiar with that battle. Should we write:
  • ALT5a: ... that in the Philippines Campaign of 1941–1942, the first American tanks to engage in combat with enemy tanks were part of the 194th Tank Battalion (emblem pictured)? Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
IMO as the original assessor, no. The point of the hook is that this was the first time that US tanks had fought other tanks ever, anywhere. This seemed clear to me, but if it is not to others then certainly it needs changing l. But ALT5a reads, to me, as if this were merely the first tank v tank clash of the Philippines campaign. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  • 16px Oh, now I get it. Adding "ever" to the hooks. Restoring your tick. Yoninah (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)