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(The Delaney site is reliable, since they obtained the information from the reference source Connecticut Clockmakers of the Eighteenth Century, starting at page 79)
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:*  [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]]  Article is long enough and new enough.  The hook is short enough and interesting.  QPQ complete.  However, I'm having trouble verifying the hook fact.  The Delaney site says "Benjamin is ''believed'' to be the first to cast ''large'' bells and bronze cannons in the country."  (Note also the claim is only as to large bells.  Also, is the Delaney site reliable?)  The Henry Ford site says "It is believed that he cast the first bells and bronze cannons made in America." The only source asserting that he was first as a factual matter (as opposed to a belief) is a local history pamphlet on Litchfield ("Benjamin cast the first Church Bells and Bronze Cannons made in America.").  There appears to some uncertainty as to whether he was the first and inconsistency as to what exactly he did first (large bells, bells, or church bells).  Perhaps the hook could be modified as follows: '''ALT1:''' ... that '''[[Benjamin Hanks]]''' is believed to be the first to make bronze [[cannon]]s in the United States?  [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 14:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 
:*  [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]]  Article is long enough and new enough.  The hook is short enough and interesting.  QPQ complete.  However, I'm having trouble verifying the hook fact.  The Delaney site says "Benjamin is ''believed'' to be the first to cast ''large'' bells and bronze cannons in the country."  (Note also the claim is only as to large bells.  Also, is the Delaney site reliable?)  The Henry Ford site says "It is believed that he cast the first bells and bronze cannons made in America." The only source asserting that he was first as a factual matter (as opposed to a belief) is a local history pamphlet on Litchfield ("Benjamin cast the first Church Bells and Bronze Cannons made in America.").  There appears to some uncertainty as to whether he was the first and inconsistency as to what exactly he did first (large bells, bells, or church bells).  Perhaps the hook could be modified as follows: '''ALT1:''' ... that '''[[Benjamin Hanks]]''' is believed to be the first to make bronze [[cannon]]s in the United States?  [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 14:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 
*I'll attempt to answer your concerns. The term "bells" for that time period (eighteenth century) meant "large bells" and "church bells". The article and associated references is about his foundries making church bells as well as cannons.  
 
*I'll attempt to answer your concerns. The term "bells" for that time period (eighteenth century) meant "large bells" and "church bells". The article and associated references is about his foundries making church bells as well as cannons.  
:::*The Delaney site is reliable, since they obtained the information from the reference source '' [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22He+was+a+skillful+and+energetic+mechanic+who+made+clocks%2C+carried+on+a+goldsmith+business%2C+was+a+maker+of+stockings%2C+looms%2C%22&btnG= Connecticut Clockmakers of the Eighteenth Century] ''.
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:::*The Delaney site is reliable, since they obtained the information from the source '' [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22He+was+a+skillful+and+energetic+mechanic+who+made+clocks%2C+carried+on+a+goldsmith+business%2C+was+a+maker+of+stockings%2C+looms%2C%22&btnG= Connecticut Clockmakers of the Eighteenth Century] '' and other [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22Hanks+was+born+in+Mansfield%2C+Connecticut+on+October+29%2C+1755%22&btnG=#hl=en&tbm=bks&sclient=psy-ab&q=+%22Uriah+and+Irene+(Case)+Hanks.%22+Benjamin+1755&oq=+%22Uriah+and+Irene+(Case)+Hanks.%22+Benjamin+1755&gs_l=serp.3...10195.11686.4.12170.5.5.0.0.0.0.253.600.4j0j1.5.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.Ux4sI0_8Tuw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48705608,d.aWc&fp=8f38b0d6ef996736&biw=1524&bih=666 similar references.]
 
:::*Ref #4 - The Meneely Bell Online Museum reference says ''...Col. Benjamin Hanks, who had established the first bell and cannon foundry in America...'' - where [[Bell (instrument)|bell]] means large church bells. [[Meneely Bell Foundry]] made church bells.
 
:::*Ref #4 - The Meneely Bell Online Museum reference says ''...Col. Benjamin Hanks, who had established the first bell and cannon foundry in America...'' - where [[Bell (instrument)|bell]] means large church bells. [[Meneely Bell Foundry]] made church bells.
 
*In the references I obtained the books from the library and have given the wording of the references:
 
*In the references I obtained the books from the library and have given the wording of the references:

Revision as of 14:17, 13 July 2013

Benjamin Hanks

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nominated at 12:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long enough and new enough. The hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ complete. However, I'm having trouble verifying the hook fact. The Delaney site says "Benjamin is believed to be the first to cast large bells and bronze cannons in the country." (Note also the claim is only as to large bells. Also, is the Delaney site reliable?) The Henry Ford site says "It is believed that he cast the first bells and bronze cannons made in America." The only source asserting that he was first as a factual matter (as opposed to a belief) is a local history pamphlet on Litchfield ("Benjamin cast the first Church Bells and Bronze Cannons made in America."). There appears to some uncertainty as to whether he was the first and inconsistency as to what exactly he did first (large bells, bells, or church bells). Perhaps the hook could be modified as follows: ALT1: ... that Benjamin Hanks is believed to be the first to make bronze cannons in the United States? Cbl62 (talk) 14:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I'll attempt to answer your concerns. The term "bells" for that time period (eighteenth century) meant "large bells" and "church bells". The article and associated references is about his foundries making church bells as well as cannons.
  • In the references I obtained the books from the library and have given the wording of the references:
Does that work for you?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)