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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Panyd|Panyd]]<sup>[[User talk:Panyd|The muffin is not subtle]]</sup> 13:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
 
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====Brain on Fire (film)====
 
====Brain on Fire (film)====
 
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* <s>... that [[Susannah Cahalan]] has [[Brain on Fire|no memory]] of the past month in the upcoming film '''''[[Brain on Fire (film)|Brain on Fire]]'''''?</s>
 
* <s>... that [[Susannah Cahalan]] has [[Brain on Fire|no memory]] of the past month in the upcoming film '''''[[Brain on Fire (film)|Brain on Fire]]'''''?</s>
  
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<small>Created/moved to mainspace by [[User:Captain Assassin!|Captain Assassin!]] ([[User talk:Captain Assassin!|talk]]) and [[User:Sunnyday711|Sunnyday711]] ([[User talk:Sunnyday711|talk]]). Self-nominated at 03:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created/moved to mainspace by [[User:Captain Assassin!|Captain Assassin!]] ([[User talk:Captain Assassin!|talk]]) and [[User:Sunnyday711|Sunnyday711]] ([[User talk:Sunnyday711|talk]]). Self-nominated at 03:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC).</small>
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:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Dates are in range (although a bit muddled by the history merge), article is of nominally                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sufficient length, prose is neutral and free from close paraphrasing, and citations are plentiful. However, the required QPQ is missing and nominator is well over the threshold requiring one. Also, it appears that a short article by [[User:Sunnyday711]] was created at this title on July 16 while the nominator's draft wasn't merged here until July 18. Those 725 characters of readable prose were at least partially incorporated into the current 2567 characters so this is a collaboration, not a 5x expansion or cleanly "new" article. In my opinion, the best course would be to credit Sunnyday711 as co-author. As to the hooks, the main hook is catchy but presents a movie plot-point as its primary fact for a fictional film based on a real person. Plus, the citation after the apparent hook fact does not mention the one-month memory lapse at all. ALT1 is factual and cited but dull. - [[User:Dravecky|Dravecky]] ([[User talk:Dravecky|talk]]) 05:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Dates are in range (although a bit muddled by the history merge), article is of nominally                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sufficient length, prose is neutral and free from close paraphrasing, and citations are plentiful. However, the required QPQ is missing and nominator is well over the threshold requiring one. Also, it appears that a short article by [[User:Sunnyday711]] was created at this title on July 16 while the nominator's draft wasn't merged here until July 18. Those 725 characters of readable prose were at least partially incorporated into the current 2567 characters so this is a collaboration, not a 5x expansion or cleanly "new" article. In my opinion, the best course would be to credit Sunnyday711 as co-author. As to the hooks, the main hook is catchy but presents a movie plot-point as its primary fact for a fictional film based on a real person. Plus, the citation after the apparent hook fact does not mention the one-month memory lapse at all. ALT1 is factual and cited but dull. - [[User:Dravecky|Dravecky]] ([[User talk:Dravecky|talk]]) 05:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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::* {{ping|Dravecky}} QPQ is done. ALT2 is suggested. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 03:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
::* {{ping|Dravecky}} QPQ is done. ALT2 is suggested. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 03:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
  
:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] I too prefer ALT2, to which I have just made a couple of minor tweaks for grammar and to avoid an unnecessarily negative hook about a living person. Both this hook and ALT1 are properly supported and I've struck the problematic main hook. Now that the QPQ review is complete, this is good to go. - [[User:Dravecky|Dravecky]] ([[User talk:Dravecky|talk]]) 06:01, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
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:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] I too prefer ALT2, to which I have just made a couple of minor tweaks for grammar and to avoid an unnecessarily negative hook about a living person. Both this hook and ALT1 are properly supported and I've struck the problematic main hook. Now that the QPQ review is complete, this is good to go. - [[User:Dravecky|Dravecky]] ([[User talk:Dravecky|talk]]) 06:01, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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Latest revision as of 13:03, 7 August 2015

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Brain on Fire (film)

Created/moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk) and Sunnyday711 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Dates are in range (although a bit muddled by the history merge), article is of nominally sufficient length, prose is neutral and free from close paraphrasing, and citations are plentiful. However, the required QPQ is missing and nominator is well over the threshold requiring one. Also, it appears that a short article by User:Sunnyday711 was created at this title on July 16 while the nominator's draft wasn't merged here until July 18. Those 725 characters of readable prose were at least partially incorporated into the current 2567 characters so this is a collaboration, not a 5x expansion or cleanly "new" article. In my opinion, the best course would be to credit Sunnyday711 as co-author. As to the hooks, the main hook is catchy but presents a movie plot-point as its primary fact for a fictional film based on a real person. Plus, the citation after the apparent hook fact does not mention the one-month memory lapse at all. ALT1 is factual and cited but dull. - Dravecky (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
  • I've no problem in co-crediting Sunnyday711, and Template:U will clear the article's "new" issue. And it was not a 5x expansion, it was moved to mainspace (merged actually). Sunnyday711 will be credited if czar say so, it's up to him now. I've also cited the main hook. I'll provide a QPQ soon. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 10:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Yep, I think it's covered that the article is new enough. See my edit summary in the merge for specifics. The two texts were merged so why not credit? He who receives cc-by-sa text from me, receives credit himself without lessening mine; as he who lites his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. – czar 16:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Okay, with attribution and credit squared away, all concerns about dates and the "new" nature of the article are resolved. I've read the provided sources and they don't quite describe the situation as it is stated in the hook. Also, they're about the reality of the situation as described in the book but there's no indication that the film will precisely echo these events. I'd suggest trying another hook. - Dravecky (talk) 18:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that Chloë Grace Moretz is playing real-life journalist Susannah Cahalan in the upcoming film Brain on Fire, based on Cahalan's memoir?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I too prefer ALT2, to which I have just made a couple of minor tweaks for grammar and to avoid an unnecessarily negative hook about a living person. Both this hook and ALT1 are properly supported and I've struck the problematic main hook. Now that the QPQ review is complete, this is good to go. - Dravecky (talk) 06:01, 30 July 2015 (UTC)