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* ... that [[Beefeater Gin]] ''(pictured)'' was first distilled in London's '''[[Cale Street]]'''? | * ... that [[Beefeater Gin]] ''(pictured)'' was first distilled in London's '''[[Cale Street]]'''? | ||
** '''ALT1''':... that St Luke's burial ground, on the south side of London's '''[[Cale Street]]''', once had a {{Convert|9|ft|adj=on}} wall and railings to protect against [[Grave robbery|grave robbers]]? | ** '''ALT1''':... that St Luke's burial ground, on the south side of London's '''[[Cale Street]]''', once had a {{Convert|9|ft|adj=on}} wall and railings to protect against [[Grave robbery|grave robbers]]? | ||
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Newland Oak|Newland Oak]] | :* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Newland Oak|Newland Oak]] | ||
<small>Created by [[User:Edwardx|Edwardx]] ([[User talk:Edwardx|talk]]), [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]), and [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) at 17:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC).</small> | <small>Created by [[User:Edwardx|Edwardx]] ([[User talk:Edwardx|talk]]), [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]), and [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) at 17:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC).</small> | ||
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:* [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] I'm unsure of whether open street map can be used as a source, and I can't find the historical street names on it, and I'm also unsure of savethesuttonestate.co.uk, but neither are used for the hooks. For the ALT0 hook there is an accessdate for the New European, but no url, but overall it is sourced. ALT1 is also appropriately sourced <small>(despite the combined Covid-19 and cookie notices completely covering the content!)</small>. Some text, such as that on Yoshio Markino, is similar to the source but effort has clearly been made to write it differently. Neutral on which hook is chosen, although personally I found the most interesting fact in the article to be the widows benefit distributed each Christmas. I'm AGF regarding image licensing, as I'm not familiar with how copyright would work for the entire logo and bottle design as a whole. As a last note the lead wording should be tweaked as the "A new street" formulation makes it read as if it might be an additional street to Cale Street, given there's no reference to an old street. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 13:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC) | :* [[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] I'm unsure of whether open street map can be used as a source, and I can't find the historical street names on it, and I'm also unsure of savethesuttonestate.co.uk, but neither are used for the hooks. For the ALT0 hook there is an accessdate for the New European, but no url, but overall it is sourced. ALT1 is also appropriately sourced <small>(despite the combined Covid-19 and cookie notices completely covering the content!)</small>. Some text, such as that on Yoshio Markino, is similar to the source but effort has clearly been made to write it differently. Neutral on which hook is chosen, although personally I found the most interesting fact in the article to be the widows benefit distributed each Christmas. I'm AGF regarding image licensing, as I'm not familiar with how copyright would work for the entire logo and bottle design as a whole. As a last note the lead wording should be tweaked as the "A new street" formulation makes it read as if it might be an additional street to Cale Street, given there's no reference to an old street. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 13:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
− | :::Thanks for your detailed review {{Ping|Chipmunkdavis}} I have added a ref for a modern street map and for an old OS map for the historic street names. Also fixed the missing url and amended the lead as you suggest. I think that save the sutton is OK for the minor point it supports. Personally, I think grave robbers trump helping widows at Christmas any day, but that's just me. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 21:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC) | + | :::Thanks for your detailed review {{Ping|Chipmunkdavis}} I have added a ref for a modern street map and for an old OS map for the historic street names. Also fixed the missing url and amended the lead as you suggest. I think that save the sutton is OK for the minor point it supports. Personally, I think grave robbers trump helping widows at Christmas any day, but that's just me. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 21:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)</div><includeonly>|}}</includeonly><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.--> |
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Latest revision as of 06:31, 23 June 2020
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:31, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Cale Street
- ... that Beefeater Gin (pictured) was first distilled in London's Cale Street?
- ALT1:... that St Luke's burial ground, on the south side of London's Cale Street, once had a 9-foot (2.7 m) wall and railings to protect against grave robbers?
- Reviewed: Newland Oak
Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 17:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC).
I'm unsure of whether open street map can be used as a source, and I can't find the historical street names on it, and I'm also unsure of savethesuttonestate.co.uk, but neither are used for the hooks. For the ALT0 hook there is an accessdate for the New European, but no url, but overall it is sourced. ALT1 is also appropriately sourced (despite the combined Covid-19 and cookie notices completely covering the content!). Some text, such as that on Yoshio Markino, is similar to the source but effort has clearly been made to write it differently. Neutral on which hook is chosen, although personally I found the most interesting fact in the article to be the widows benefit distributed each Christmas. I'm AGF regarding image licensing, as I'm not familiar with how copyright would work for the entire logo and bottle design as a whole. As a last note the lead wording should be tweaked as the "A new street" formulation makes it read as if it might be an additional street to Cale Street, given there's no reference to an old street. CMD (talk) 13:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your detailed review Template:Ping I have added a ref for a modern street map and for an old OS map for the historic street names. Also fixed the missing url and amended the lead as you suggest. I think that save the sutton is OK for the minor point it supports. Personally, I think grave robbers trump helping widows at Christmas any day, but that's just me. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)