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:* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Claude_Batchelor&action=history New enough]; long enough (~6.2k elig. chars.); BLP applies and, while sources like the US Senate are not necessarily unbiased, they are RS for at least official US versions of events and can be supplemented later if rival RSs offer different spins; some things (AP once called a phone number that they weren't certain was his and no one answered &c.) [[WP:UNDUE|seem needless]] but that's not an issue for DYK really; [https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Claude+Batchelor&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Earwig finds minimal copyvio]; the current hook is too long (~220 chars.) and unsupported ("''a'' potential X"{{nbsp}}≠ "''the'' X") and QPQ needed.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<br><br>{{ping|Chetsford}} Hullo?&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 02:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Claude_Batchelor&action=history New enough]; long enough (~6.2k elig. chars.); BLP applies and, while sources like the US Senate are not necessarily unbiased, they are RS for at least official US versions of events and can be supplemented later if rival RSs offer different spins; some things (AP once called a phone number that they weren't certain was his and no one answered &c.) [[WP:UNDUE|seem needless]] but that's not an issue for DYK really; [https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Claude+Batchelor&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Earwig finds minimal copyvio]; the current hook is too long (~220 chars.) and unsupported ("''a'' potential X"{{nbsp}}≠ "''the'' X") and QPQ needed.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<br><br>{{ping|Chetsford}} Hullo?&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 02:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::*[[User:LlywelynII|LlywelynII]] - my apologies for the delay. Updated above. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 03:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::*[[User:LlywelynII|LlywelynII]] - my apologies for the delay. Updated above. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 03:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
:::* {{ping|Chetsford}} It's ok, just checking. '''QPQ done and hook short enough''', so that's good. I wouldn't've minded a rephrasing: sth like the original hook or sth about his having originally refused to return to the US seem like the most interesting things here. With the entirely new hook, the problem is my reading of the article is that he wasn't a trumpet player any more: he'd been moved to the active fighters prior to his capture. Is that wrong? The hook ("former...") or article might need to be rewritten a bit to make it clearer.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 15:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::* {{ping|Chetsford}} It's ok, just checking. QPQ done and hook short enough, so that's good. I wouldn't've minded a rephrasing: sth like the original hook or sth about his having originally refused to return to the US seem like the most interesting things here. With the entirely new hook, the problem is my reading of the article is that he wasn't a trumpet player any more: he'd been moved to the active fighters prior to his capture. Is that wrong? The hook ("former...") or article might need to be rewritten a bit to make it clearer.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 15:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::::*That's a great catch. What about Alt 2? [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 18:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::::*That's a great catch. What about Alt 2? [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 18:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Yup. '''G2G w/ALT 2'''.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 19:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Yup. '''G2G w/ALT 2'''.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color: Gold;">II</span></span>]] 19:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 
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Revision as of 19:05, 22 August 2019

Claude Batchelor

  • ... that during Claude BatchelorTemplate:`s trial on charges of collaboration, psychiatrist Leon Freedman testified that the American soldier had been brainwashed by his Chinese captors into believing he was the "savior of humanity"?
*ALT-1: ... that Claude Batchelor, a trumpet player with the 1st Cavalry Division Band, was convicted on charges related to collaboration with China during the Korean War?

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 06:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC).

  • On it. — LlywelynII 10:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
  • New enough; long enough (~6.2k elig. chars.); BLP applies and, while sources like the US Senate are not necessarily unbiased, they are RS for at least official US versions of events and can be supplemented later if rival RSs offer different spins; some things (AP once called a phone number that they weren't certain was his and no one answered &c.) seem needless but that's not an issue for DYK really; Earwig finds minimal copyvio; the current hook is too long (~220 chars.) and unsupported ("a potential X" ≠ "the X") and QPQ needed. — LlywelynII 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

    Template:Ping Hullo? — LlywelynII 02:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Template:Ping It's ok, just checking. QPQ done and hook short enough, so that's good. I wouldn't've minded a rephrasing: sth like the original hook or sth about his having originally refused to return to the US seem like the most interesting things here. With the entirely new hook, the problem is my reading of the article is that he wasn't a trumpet player any more: he'd been moved to the active fighters prior to his capture. Is that wrong? The hook ("former...") or article might need to be rewritten a bit to make it clearer. — LlywelynII 15:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • That's a great catch. What about Alt 2? Chetsford (talk) 18:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Yup. G2G w/ALT 2. — LlywelynII 19:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)