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{{*mp}}... that eight NFL players have died, with five of them being suicides (most recently being [[Junior Seau]] in 2012) due in part to '''[[Concussions in American football|concussions having affected their playing careers and later life]]'''?
 
{{*mp}}... that eight NFL players have died, with five of them being suicides (most recently being [[Junior Seau]] in 2012) due in part to '''[[Concussions in American football|concussions having affected their playing careers and later life]]'''?
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<small>Created/expanded  by [[User:ZappaOMati|ZappaOMati]] ([[User talk:ZappaOMati|talk]]).  Self nom at 03:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)</small>
 
<small>Created/expanded  by [[User:ZappaOMati|ZappaOMati]] ([[User talk:ZappaOMati|talk]]).  Self nom at 03:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:*The date for the new article criteria is going to pass after today, and I nominated this page for the new article reason. '''<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:ZappaOMati|<font color="#0000FF">Zappa</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ZappaOMati|<font color="#00FF00">O</font>]][[User talk:ZappaOMati|<font color="#FF0000">Mati</font>]]</span>''' 19:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:*The date for the new article criteria is going to pass after today, and I nominated this page for the new article reason. '''<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:ZappaOMati|<font color="#0000FF">Zappa</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ZappaOMati|<font color="#00FF00">O</font>]][[User talk:ZappaOMati|<font color="#FF0000">Mati</font>]]</span>''' 19:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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:*'''ALT3''': ... that [[Hines Ward]] claimed that the use of the Head Impact Telemetry System would be "'''[[Concussions in American football|opening a Pandora's Box]]'''"?
 
:*'''ALT3''': ... that [[Hines Ward]] claimed that the use of the Head Impact Telemetry System would be "'''[[Concussions in American football|opening a Pandora's Box]]'''"?
 
:*'''ALT4''': ... that 2,138 NFL players and their lawyers have planned to file one lawsuit against the league for '''[[Concussions in American football|failing to protect them from concussions]]'''?
 
:*'''ALT4''': ... that 2,138 NFL players and their lawyers have planned to file one lawsuit against the league for '''[[Concussions in American football|failing to protect them from concussions]]'''?
::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] ALT4 is the best; I've already verified that source and it tells the reader what the article is about. ALT3 is too oblique. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 04:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC){{#if:yes|</div></noinclude>|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template talk:Did you know/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:Pending DYK nominations]]|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template:Did you know nominations/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:Pending DYK nominations]]}}}}}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] ALT4 is the best; I've already verified that source and it tells the reader what the article is about. ALT3 is too oblique. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 04:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
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*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] I'm concerned that some of the phrasing in this article may be too close to that of its sources. Compare for example "the league announced it will be partnering with Tator in a study that would perform post-mortem tests on former CFL players to look for signs of CTE, similar to a Boston University research that found the disease in dozens of former football and hockey players" with "league also announced it was partnering with Tator in a study that would perform post-mortem tests on former CFL players to look for signs of CTE, similar to groundbreaking Boston University research that has found the disease in dozens of former football and hockey players". [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 04:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
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Concussions in American football

Created/expanded by ZappaOMati (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

  • The date for the new article criteria is going to pass after today, and I nominated this page for the new article reason. ZappaOMati 19:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Looks like it passed. ZappaOMati 15:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
  • The newness factor is for nominating, not reviewing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:06, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg Junior Seau doesn't belong in this hook, at least not worded this way. He was not known to have suffered many concussions while playing and the results of his brain examinations are not in yet, therefore it cannot be said that PCS was a factor in his death. The article, in fact, doesn't say this, and the hook shouldn't, either. Daniel Case (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Until I fix this, I came up with 2 alternates (one without Seau's mention and the other without him altogether):

ALT1: ... that eight NFL players have died (with five of them being suicides) due in part to concussions having affected their playing careers and later life?
ALT2: ... that seven NFL players have died (with four of them being suicides) due in part to concussions having affected their playing careers and later life? ZappaOMati 22:08, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Still not really sure about this. From what I have read, the link between football-induced CTE and suicide isn't conclusively established, especially since there are so many other risk factors, and the article seems adroitly to avoid saying this. The hook shouldn't either. Daniel Case (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
How about I remove the player suicide hook altogether and go with these?:ZappaOMati 15:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT4 is the best; I've already verified that source and it tells the reader what the article is about. ALT3 is too oblique. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm concerned that some of the phrasing in this article may be too close to that of its sources. Compare for example "the league announced it will be partnering with Tator in a study that would perform post-mortem tests on former CFL players to look for signs of CTE, similar to a Boston University research that found the disease in dozens of former football and hockey players" with "league also announced it was partnering with Tator in a study that would perform post-mortem tests on former CFL players to look for signs of CTE, similar to groundbreaking Boston University research that has found the disease in dozens of former football and hockey players". Nikkimaria (talk) 04:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)