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The result was: '''rejected''' by [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 00:44, 3 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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* ... that  [[Donald Trump]] created the '''[[Donald J. Trump Foundation]]''' to give away the royalties from his book ''[[Trump: The Art of the Deal]]''?
 
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:* ''Comment'': Promote '''after''' November 8, 2016 (Presidential election in the USA)  
 
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<small>Created by [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] ([[User talk:Eloquence|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) at 19:40, 15 September 2016 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] ([[User talk:Eloquence|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) at 19:40, 15 September 2016 (UTC).</small>
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:*'''Comment''' - I think we should delay putting this on the front page of Wikipedia until after the November 8 election.  Given that yesterday ''Newsweek'' published an investigative piece into the organization, not addressing it in this article is lacking.  Right now, the hook and the article look like a violation of [[WP:DYKNOT]] {{tq|A means of advertising, or of promoting commercial or political causes. While it is fine to cover topics of commercial or political interest, DYK must not provide inappropriate advantage for such causes (e.g. during election campaigns or product launches).}} [[User:Maile66|— Maile ]] ([[User talk:Maile66|talk]]) 20:01, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 
:*'''Comment''' - I think we should delay putting this on the front page of Wikipedia until after the November 8 election.  Given that yesterday ''Newsweek'' published an investigative piece into the organization, not addressing it in this article is lacking.  Right now, the hook and the article look like a violation of [[WP:DYKNOT]] {{tq|A means of advertising, or of promoting commercial or political causes. While it is fine to cover topics of commercial or political interest, DYK must not provide inappropriate advantage for such causes (e.g. during election campaigns or product launches).}} [[User:Maile66|— Maile ]] ([[User talk:Maile66|talk]]) 20:01, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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::*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Returned from prep per discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know&diff=748885107&oldid=748879869 WT:DYK]. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 00:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 
::*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Returned from prep per discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know&diff=748885107&oldid=748879869 WT:DYK]. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 00:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
  
*'''Comment''' as nominator: I think the issues pointed out at WT:DYK have merit, and I don't have time or inclination to fix them, so I would like to withdraw this nomination. [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 01:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' as nominator: I think the issues pointed out at WT:DYK have merit, and I don't have time or inclination to fix them, so I would like to withdraw this nomination. [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 01:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
 
 
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Revision as of 00:44, 3 December 2016

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 00:44, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator.

Donald J. Trump Foundation

  • Reviewed: Violetta Thurstan
  • Comment: Promote after November 8, 2016 (Presidential election in the USA)

Created by Eloquence (talk). Nominated by MelanieN (talk) at 19:40, 15 September 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment - I think we should delay putting this on the front page of Wikipedia until after the November 8 election. Given that yesterday Newsweek published an investigative piece into the organization, not addressing it in this article is lacking. Right now, the hook and the article look like a violation of WP:DYKNOT Template:Tq — Maile (talk) 20:01, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
  • I've added an ALT 1, which I prefer. Neutralitytalk 20:46, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
  • I also like ALT1 better. I would be OK with placing the nomination on hold until a time when its front-page placement would be regarded as neutral. MelanieN (talk) 21:00, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
  • I like ALT1 also. And who knows...by the time this can be promoted, there might be other information surface that give way to even more hooks. Or not... what's happening now could be just more yadda-yadda-yadda that stagnates forever.— Maile (talk) 21:28, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
  • The problem with ALT0 is we can't read Trump's mind (assuming there's anything there to read anyway). EEng 06:19, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
    • Good point. I have added a second reference [1] which says explicitly "In 1987, the mogul started the Donald J. Trump Foundation to donate his royalties." If you're still dubious we could add "reportedly". But it may be moot since most of us prefer ALT1 anyhow. MelanieN (talk) 14:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed; hook discussion concluded over a month ago. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:38, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
[FBDB] I just think it's fair to remind everyone that (a) this can't appear until after the election and (b) anyone saying anything bad about President-for-Life Trump will be jailed or deported. EEng 07:16, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article is new enough, large enough and cited. Really I cannot say this is neutral, some of what is put under headings suggests no-neutrality, but I would prefer a DT supporter to give an opinion on this. MelanieN's QPQ review was very light on, but it's already promoted. Creator is credited, but perhaps PeteWL should receive credit too. The copyvio tool cannot find any real problems (only copying is quotes and names). ALT1 is short enough, in the article, cited and roughly confirmed by reference which says TWP "biggest donors to his foundation in recent years have been other people, most notably ..." —— This [2] confirms it was the biggest, so ALT1 appears correct. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK. Yoninah (talk) 00:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment as nominator: I think the issues pointed out at WT:DYK have merit, and I don't have time or inclination to fix them, so I would like to withdraw this nomination. MelanieN (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)