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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] 5x (since the 20th), long enough, "within policy", no copyvio found via spotcheck (no tool), [[Wikipedia:QPQ|QPQ]] done (though the IP is waiting for a reply). The kitchen part of the first hook isn't cited in the article, if you wanted to use that hook. That first hook is a bit messy since the article isn't cited as saying that the equipment following Brown was specifically kitchen equipment and it doesn't say it was for making domestic servants, though the school's purpose of doing so is mentioned later. I suggest rephrasing it within the article. Second hook looks okay, but it needs an immediate inline ref in the article (see [[Wikipedia:Did you know#Eligibility criteria|3b]]). Also (this isn't required for the nom, but) it'd be nice to have the page numbers in the PDF citation—otherwise it's a lot of digging around without OCR to try to verify the info. Up to you. Please ping me if I don't respond. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><font color="#909">czar</font> [[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 23:52, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | :* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] 5x (since the 20th), long enough, "within policy", no copyvio found via spotcheck (no tool), [[Wikipedia:QPQ|QPQ]] done (though the IP is waiting for a reply). The kitchen part of the first hook isn't cited in the article, if you wanted to use that hook. That first hook is a bit messy since the article isn't cited as saying that the equipment following Brown was specifically kitchen equipment and it doesn't say it was for making domestic servants, though the school's purpose of doing so is mentioned later. I suggest rephrasing it within the article. Second hook looks okay, but it needs an immediate inline ref in the article (see [[Wikipedia:Did you know#Eligibility criteria|3b]]). Also (this isn't required for the nom, but) it'd be nice to have the page numbers in the PDF citation—otherwise it's a lot of digging around without OCR to try to verify the info. Up to you. Please ping me if I don't respond. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><font color="#909">czar</font> [[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 23:52, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::Thanks for the review. I've added footnotes for the ALT hook. I personally think the original hook is more interesting, though. The article states that a "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed after the Supreme Court decision. In the hook, I summarized those three items as "kitchen equipment". Is that not sufficiently clear? Would it help any if the words were hyperlinked? I don't think it should be necessary for a DYK hook to be a verbatim repetition of words in the article, so I think it is sufficient that the article states in one place that the "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed in the industrial room after the court decision and states in another place that the home economics training conducted in the industrial room was intended to "qualify [girls] for employment as domestic servants". Do you feel that readers are disserved by having those two pieces of information in separate paragraphs? --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 03:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC) | :::Thanks for the review. I've added footnotes for the ALT hook. I personally think the original hook is more interesting, though. The article states that a "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed after the Supreme Court decision. In the hook, I summarized those three items as "kitchen equipment". Is that not sufficiently clear? Would it help any if the words were hyperlinked? I don't think it should be necessary for a DYK hook to be a verbatim repetition of words in the article, so I think it is sufficient that the article states in one place that the "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed in the industrial room after the court decision and states in another place that the home economics training conducted in the industrial room was intended to "qualify [girls] for employment as domestic servants". Do you feel that readers are disserved by having those two pieces of information in separate paragraphs? --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 03:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::::I didn't mean it pedantically—just that a stove could be for heating a room and a sink for washing hands, not necessarily for home ec purposes so I didn't know from the context. It would help to clarify the prose according to the source. Better to not have the ambiguity, no? (And it doesn't have to be verbatim.) Somewhat outside the scope of this review, but I think it would help to have this info consecutive in the prose, since it's ostensibly a large part of the school's function and it isn't clear in the prose right now. And paged footnotes would help easily locate the relevant passages. <span style='font:1.1em"Avenir";padding:1px 3px;border:1px solid #909'><font color="#909">czar</font> [[User:Czar|<font color="#909">♔</font>]]</span> 05:38, 24 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Durham's Chapel School
- ... that after the U.S. Supreme Court declared public school segregation unlawful, a segregated school in Tennessee was given new kitchen equipment for training black girls to be domestic servants?
- ALT1: ... that Durham's Chapel School and Cairo Rosenwald School were among seven Rosenwald schools built in Sumner County, Tennessee?
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5x expanded by Orlady (talk). Self nominated at 02:12, 22 March 2014 (UTC).
5x (since the 20th), long enough, "within policy", no copyvio found via spotcheck (no tool), QPQ done (though the IP is waiting for a reply). The kitchen part of the first hook isn't cited in the article, if you wanted to use that hook. That first hook is a bit messy since the article isn't cited as saying that the equipment following Brown was specifically kitchen equipment and it doesn't say it was for making domestic servants, though the school's purpose of doing so is mentioned later. I suggest rephrasing it within the article. Second hook looks okay, but it needs an immediate inline ref in the article (see 3b). Also (this isn't required for the nom, but) it'd be nice to have the page numbers in the PDF citation—otherwise it's a lot of digging around without OCR to try to verify the info. Up to you. Please ping me if I don't respond. czar ♔ 23:52, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I've added footnotes for the ALT hook. I personally think the original hook is more interesting, though. The article states that a "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed after the Supreme Court decision. In the hook, I summarized those three items as "kitchen equipment". Is that not sufficiently clear? Would it help any if the words were hyperlinked? I don't think it should be necessary for a DYK hook to be a verbatim repetition of words in the article, so I think it is sufficient that the article states in one place that the "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed in the industrial room after the court decision and states in another place that the home economics training conducted in the industrial room was intended to "qualify [girls] for employment as domestic servants". Do you feel that readers are disserved by having those two pieces of information in separate paragraphs? --Orlady (talk) 03:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- I didn't mean it pedantically—just that a stove could be for heating a room and a sink for washing hands, not necessarily for home ec purposes so I didn't know from the context. It would help to clarify the prose according to the source. Better to not have the ambiguity, no? (And it doesn't have to be verbatim.) Somewhat outside the scope of this review, but I think it would help to have this info consecutive in the prose, since it's ostensibly a large part of the school's function and it isn't clear in the prose right now. And paged footnotes would help easily locate the relevant passages. czar ♔ 05:38, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I've added footnotes for the ALT hook. I personally think the original hook is more interesting, though. The article states that a "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed after the Supreme Court decision. In the hook, I summarized those three items as "kitchen equipment". Is that not sufficiently clear? Would it help any if the words were hyperlinked? I don't think it should be necessary for a DYK hook to be a verbatim repetition of words in the article, so I think it is sufficient that the article states in one place that the "sink, refrigerator, and stove" were installed in the industrial room after the court decision and states in another place that the home economics training conducted in the industrial room was intended to "qualify [girls] for employment as domestic servants". Do you feel that readers are disserved by having those two pieces of information in separate paragraphs? --Orlady (talk) 03:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC)