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::*{{ping|HaEr48}} I have added a cite to the paragraph. I have not been able to find any figures saying how many Spaniards were settled at the port at Pinal's establishment, though the number cannot be higher than the capacity of a 16th century Spanish carrack, since Zamudio only brought one ship. We also don't know how many people were left when the Spanish were chased away - but we know Luis Pérez Dasmariñas brought 120 men to Pinhal after encountering a storm, adding to the number Zamudio left behind in Pinhal. Whether the Portuguese actually attacked Pinhal is debatable: Sousa Pinto says the Portuguese did not attack Pinhal since it would enrage Chinese authorities closeby, and only attacked the Spanish at [[Lampacau]] (further away). [[User:Underbar dk|_dk]] ([[User talk:Underbar dk|talk]]) 03:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC) | ::*{{ping|HaEr48}} I have added a cite to the paragraph. I have not been able to find any figures saying how many Spaniards were settled at the port at Pinal's establishment, though the number cannot be higher than the capacity of a 16th century Spanish carrack, since Zamudio only brought one ship. We also don't know how many people were left when the Spanish were chased away - but we know Luis Pérez Dasmariñas brought 120 men to Pinhal after encountering a storm, adding to the number Zamudio left behind in Pinhal. Whether the Portuguese actually attacked Pinhal is debatable: Sousa Pinto says the Portuguese did not attack Pinhal since it would enrage Chinese authorities closeby, and only attacked the Spanish at [[Lampacau]] (further away). [[User:Underbar dk|_dk]] ([[User talk:Underbar dk|talk]]) 03:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC) | ||
| − | :::* {{re|HaEr48}} Sources differ on whether El Piñal itself was attacked or not, see my discussion with {{u|Underbar dk}} on [[Talk:El Piñal]]. Therefore the hook only says the Spanish (I've changed "Spain" to the Spanish) were attacked ( | + | :::* {{re|HaEr48}} Sources differ on whether El Piñal itself was attacked or not, see my discussion with {{u|Underbar dk}} on [[Talk:El Piñal]]. Therefore the hook only says the Spanish (I've changed "Spain" to the Spanish) were attacked (either at El Piñal or Lampacau), but the result was the same: they abandoned El Piñal. -[[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) 04:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC) |
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El Piñal
- ... that the Spanish abandoned El Piñal, their trading port in China, after they were attacked by Portuguese Macau?
Created by Underbar dk (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 05:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC).
Long enough and new enough. Generally within policy, no copyvio issue found, written in neutral manner, with citations. Spot checked one of the citations (Sousa Pinto) and it seems in line with the article. One paragraph in "background" is missing citation, please update. The size of the settlement is missing, how many Spaniards settled the port? (e.g. during initial establishment, or when it was finally evacuated), please include this in the article. QPQ looks okay. Regarding the hook, the article did not actually say that the settlement was attacked, only blockaded. Could you clarify? HaEr48 (talk) 01:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Template:Ping I have added a cite to the paragraph. I have not been able to find any figures saying how many Spaniards were settled at the port at Pinal's establishment, though the number cannot be higher than the capacity of a 16th century Spanish carrack, since Zamudio only brought one ship. We also don't know how many people were left when the Spanish were chased away - but we know Luis Pérez Dasmariñas brought 120 men to Pinhal after encountering a storm, adding to the number Zamudio left behind in Pinhal. Whether the Portuguese actually attacked Pinhal is debatable: Sousa Pinto says the Portuguese did not attack Pinhal since it would enrage Chinese authorities closeby, and only attacked the Spanish at Lampacau (further away). _dk (talk) 03:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Template:Re Sources differ on whether El Piñal itself was attacked or not, see my discussion with Template:U on Talk:El Piñal. Therefore the hook only says the Spanish (I've changed "Spain" to the Spanish) were attacked (either at El Piñal or Lampacau), but the result was the same: they abandoned El Piñal. -Zanhe (talk) 04:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)