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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]])&nbsp;18:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... that the four contractors that worked on '''''[[Elsinore (video game)|Elsinore]]''''' were paid by the lead developers from their day job salaries?  <small>Source: "Rather, the group held onto its origins in the Game Creation Society as a sort of club, with its seven founders receiving no money until the profit share on the game's launch, and paying their four contractors out of salaries from their day jobs." ([https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-01-30-in-elsinore-more-matter-is-more-art])</small>
 
* ... that the four contractors that worked on '''''[[Elsinore (video game)|Elsinore]]''''' were paid by the lead developers from their day job salaries?  <small>Source: "Rather, the group held onto its origins in the Game Creation Society as a sort of club, with its seven founders receiving no money until the profit share on the game's launch, and paying their four contractors out of salaries from their day jobs." ([https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-01-30-in-elsinore-more-matter-is-more-art])</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that the developers of '''''[[Elsinore (video game)|Elsinore]]''''', a video game based on ''[[Hamlet]]'', drew inspiration for the game's time loop mechanic from ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'', anime, and [[visual novels]]?  <small>Source: "Though time loop games seem to have hit their stride in the last few years, Chironis says that aside from Majora's Mask, there weren't really many good examples when they first began working on Elsinore in 2010. Rather, the team took inspiration from anime and visual novels, which she says use the trope far more often." ([https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-01-30-in-elsinore-more-matter-is-more-art]), "Majora's Mask is obviously a huge influence in this regard. All of the side content in that game occurs over specific time frames in such a way that it is impossible to see or change every outcome in one go." ([https://www.gameskinny.com/akzwd/interview-elsinore-developer-gives-us-new-insights-into-ophelias-heroic-comeback])</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that the developers of '''''[[Elsinore (video game)|Elsinore]]''''', a video game based on ''[[Hamlet]]'', drew inspiration for the game's time loop mechanic from ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'', anime, and [[visual novels]]?  <small>Source: "Though time loop games seem to have hit their stride in the last few years, Chironis says that aside from Majora's Mask, there weren't really many good examples when they first began working on Elsinore in 2010. Rather, the team took inspiration from anime and visual novels, which she says use the trope far more often." ([https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-01-30-in-elsinore-more-matter-is-more-art]), "Majora's Mask is obviously a huge influence in this regard. All of the side content in that game occurs over specific time frames in such a way that it is impossible to see or change every outcome in one go." ([https://www.gameskinny.com/akzwd/interview-elsinore-developer-gives-us-new-insights-into-ophelias-heroic-comeback])</small>
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<small>Moved to mainspace by [[User:Nomader|Nomader]] ([[User talk:Nomader|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Moved to mainspace by [[User:Nomader|Nomader]] ([[User talk:Nomader|talk]]). Self-nominated at 17:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC).</small>
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:* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Article has been expanded enough, is well sourced, neutral, and has no obvious copyvio. I also prefer ALT1 for the hook. Just link ''Hamlet'' in the hook, and everything else is good. [[User:Starsandwhales|starsandwhales]] ([[User talk:Starsandwhales|talk]]) 01:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Article has been expanded enough, is well sourced, neutral, and has no obvious copyvio. I also prefer ALT1 for the hook. Just link ''Hamlet'' in the hook, and everything else is good. [[User:Starsandwhales|starsandwhales]] ([[User talk:Starsandwhales|talk]]) 01:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::{{ping|Yoninah}} Hey, thanks for the flag here-- I added the sources to the sentence inline here. The sentence is based off of the quotes from both of the sources which you noted didn't contain the hook facts, but combined, I believe they do. The first mentions ''Majora's Mask'' but states "Rather, the team took inspiration from anime and visual novels, which she says use the trope far more often." The other source says talks about how ''Majora's Mask'' was "obviously a huge influence in this regard" from the lead designer of the game. We could make an ALT that would be based off of the more clear source (which doesn't mention Majora's Mask), maybe the below? [[User:Nomader|'''<span style="color: #8B4513">Nomader</span>''']] ([[User talk:Nomader|<span style="color: #8B4513">talk</span>]]) 18:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::{{ping|Yoninah}} Hey, thanks for the flag here-- I added the sources to the sentence inline here. The sentence is based off of the quotes from both of the sources which you noted didn't contain the hook facts, but combined, I believe they do. The first mentions ''Majora's Mask'' but states "Rather, the team took inspiration from anime and visual novels, which she says use the trope far more often." The other source says talks about how ''Majora's Mask'' was "obviously a huge influence in this regard" from the lead designer of the game. We could make an ALT that would be based off of the more clear source (which doesn't mention Majora's Mask), maybe the below? [[User:Nomader|'''<span style="color: #8B4513">Nomader</span>''']] ([[User talk:Nomader|<span style="color: #8B4513">talk</span>]]) 18:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::*'''ALT2''':... that the developers of '''''[[Elsinore (video game)|Elsinore]]''''', a video game based on ''[[Hamlet]]'', drew inspiration for the game's time loop mechanic from [[anime]] and [[visual novels]]?
 
::::*'''ALT2''':... that the developers of '''''[[Elsinore (video game)|Elsinore]]''''', a video game based on ''[[Hamlet]]'', drew inspiration for the game's time loop mechanic from [[anime]] and [[visual novels]]?
:::::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you. Now I see everything verified in the sources. I was actually searching on "Zelda" and didn't find that. Restoring tick for ALT1. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 18:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you. Now I see everything verified in the sources. I was actually searching on "Zelda" and didn't find that. Restoring tick for ALT1. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 18:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)</div><includeonly>|}}</includeonly><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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Latest revision as of 18:57, 19 May 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Elsinore (video game)

  • ... that the four contractors that worked on Elsinore were paid by the lead developers from their day job salaries? Source: "Rather, the group held onto its origins in the Game Creation Society as a sort of club, with its seven founders receiving no money until the profit share on the game's launch, and paying their four contractors out of salaries from their day jobs." ([1])
    • ALT1:... that the developers of Elsinore, a video game based on Hamlet, drew inspiration for the game's time loop mechanic from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, anime, and visual novels? Source: "Though time loop games seem to have hit their stride in the last few years, Chironis says that aside from Majora's Mask, there weren't really many good examples when they first began working on Elsinore in 2010. Rather, the team took inspiration from anime and visual novels, which she says use the trope far more often." ([2]), "Majora's Mask is obviously a huge influence in this regard. All of the side content in that game occurs over specific time frames in such a way that it is impossible to see or change every outcome in one go." ([3])

Moved to mainspace by Nomader (talk). Self-nominated at 17:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article has been expanded enough, is well sourced, neutral, and has no obvious copyvio. I also prefer ALT1 for the hook. Just link Hamlet in the hook, and everything else is good. starsandwhales (talk) 01:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see an inline cite for the ALT1 hook fact. There are two footnotes (3 and 7) for the following sentence, but neither one contains the hook facts. Yoninah (talk) 17:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Template:Ping Hey, thanks for the flag here-- I added the sources to the sentence inline here. The sentence is based off of the quotes from both of the sources which you noted didn't contain the hook facts, but combined, I believe they do. The first mentions Majora's Mask but states "Rather, the team took inspiration from anime and visual novels, which she says use the trope far more often." The other source says talks about how Majora's Mask was "obviously a huge influence in this regard" from the lead designer of the game. We could make an ALT that would be based off of the more clear source (which doesn't mention Majora's Mask), maybe the below? Nomader (talk) 18:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you. Now I see everything verified in the sources. I was actually searching on "Zelda" and didn't find that. Restoring tick for ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)