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====First Families of Pakistan==== | ====First Families of Pakistan==== | ||
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{{*mp}}... that [[Jinnah family]] is the '''[[First Families of Pakistan|founder family]]''' of [[Pakistan]] whose member [[Muhammad Ali Jinnah]] was the first [[Governor-General of Pakistan|Governor-General]] of Pakistan? | {{*mp}}... that [[Jinnah family]] is the '''[[First Families of Pakistan|founder family]]''' of [[Pakistan]] whose member [[Muhammad Ali Jinnah]] was the first [[Governor-General of Pakistan|Governor-General]] of Pakistan? | ||
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:*''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Cubana de Aviación Flight 9646|Cubana de Aviación Flight 9646]] | :*''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Cubana de Aviación Flight 9646|Cubana de Aviación Flight 9646]] | ||
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<small>Created/expanded by [[User:Sahara4u|Sahara4u]] ([[User talk:Sahara4u|talk]]). Self nom at 04:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</small> | <small>Created/expanded by [[User:Sahara4u|Sahara4u]] ([[User talk:Sahara4u|talk]]). Self nom at 04:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)</small> | ||
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:'''Comment''' In [[First Families of Pakistan#Jinnah_family]], the first sentence is "Jinnah family is a political family in South Asia and is the founder family of Pakistan", referenced to a [http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jinnah+family+inaugurates+Bait-ul-Mal+office.-a0203157984 ''Balochistan Times'' article]. However, that article does not use the phrase "founder family".<br />I [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22founder+family%22+pakistan searched for other uses of the term "founder family"], but seem to be getting hits for "founder's family" rather than "founder family". The latter phrase implies that it was Jinnah's family who founded the country, and I don't think that terminology should be used unless reliably sourced.<br />Apart from that, the hook takes the form of "... that X is Y?", which is discouraged at [[Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Reviewing_guide#Review_the_hook]].<br />(I have done none of the other DYK checks, so this is not a full review). --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#996600; cursor: not-allowed;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC) | :'''Comment''' In [[First Families of Pakistan#Jinnah_family]], the first sentence is "Jinnah family is a political family in South Asia and is the founder family of Pakistan", referenced to a [http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jinnah+family+inaugurates+Bait-ul-Mal+office.-a0203157984 ''Balochistan Times'' article]. However, that article does not use the phrase "founder family".<br />I [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22founder+family%22+pakistan searched for other uses of the term "founder family"], but seem to be getting hits for "founder's family" rather than "founder family". The latter phrase implies that it was Jinnah's family who founded the country, and I don't think that terminology should be used unless reliably sourced.<br />Apart from that, the hook takes the form of "... that X is Y?", which is discouraged at [[Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Reviewing_guide#Review_the_hook]].<br />(I have done none of the other DYK checks, so this is not a full review). --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#996600; cursor: not-allowed;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
::{{*mp}}'''ALT1'''... that [[Jinnah family]] is the '''[[First Families of Pakistan|family of the founder of Pakistan]]''', [[Muhammad Ali Jinnah]] ''(pictured centre)'' who was the first [[Governor-General of Pakistan|Governor-General]] of [[Pakistan]]? | ::{{*mp}}'''ALT1'''... that [[Jinnah family]] is the '''[[First Families of Pakistan|family of the founder of Pakistan]]''', [[Muhammad Ali Jinnah]] ''(pictured centre)'' who was the first [[Governor-General of Pakistan|Governor-General]] of [[Pakistan]]? | ||
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* [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] Roughly 2,000 chars of readable prose, with a mile-long list of buleted, unlinked names. However, I'm not here to rewrite it from scratch. The [[wp:lede]] is completely unrelated to First Families of Pakistan (which is the subject of this article). There's not a word of introduction to the actual list of families copy-pasted (word for word) from older articles such as [[Jinnah family]] (started April 11, 2012 by someone else). This article was created on September 9, 2012 via copy-paste as soon as Roscelese ''soft deleted'' (i.e. redirected) the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryam Nawaz Sharif]] to [[Maryam Nawaz]] with the edit summary: ''"amazing how parallel articles have existed so long! merge..."''. I feel I don't really have a choice but to reject it. The article isn't new by the rules of DYK. Besides, it is written against the basics of [[WP:MOS]]. Sorry BrownHairedGirl for the time you spent working on your alt. [[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<font style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font>]] 03:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC) | * [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] Roughly 2,000 chars of readable prose, with a mile-long list of buleted, unlinked names. However, I'm not here to rewrite it from scratch. The [[wp:lede]] is completely unrelated to First Families of Pakistan (which is the subject of this article). There's not a word of introduction to the actual list of families copy-pasted (word for word) from older articles such as [[Jinnah family]] (started April 11, 2012 by someone else). This article was created on September 9, 2012 via copy-paste as soon as Roscelese ''soft deleted'' (i.e. redirected) the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryam Nawaz Sharif]] to [[Maryam Nawaz]] with the edit summary: ''"amazing how parallel articles have existed so long! merge..."''. I feel I don't really have a choice but to reject it. The article isn't new by the rules of DYK. Besides, it is written against the basics of [[WP:MOS]]. Sorry BrownHairedGirl for the time you spent working on your alt. [[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<font style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font>]] 03:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Revision as of 03:28, 9 October 2012
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 03:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
First Families of Pakistan
- ... that Jinnah family is the founder family of Pakistan whose member Muhammad Ali Jinnah was the first Governor-General of Pakistan?
- Reviewed: Cubana de Aviación Flight 9646
- Comment: New article
Created/expanded by Sahara4u (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Comment In First Families of Pakistan#Jinnah_family, the first sentence is "Jinnah family is a political family in South Asia and is the founder family of Pakistan", referenced to a Balochistan Times article. However, that article does not use the phrase "founder family".
I searched for other uses of the term "founder family", but seem to be getting hits for "founder's family" rather than "founder family". The latter phrase implies that it was Jinnah's family who founded the country, and I don't think that terminology should be used unless reliably sourced.
Apart from that, the hook takes the form of "... that X is Y?", which is discouraged at Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Reviewing_guide#Review_the_hook.
(I have done none of the other DYK checks, so this is not a full review). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Jinnah family is the family of the founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah (pictured centre) who was the first Governor-General of Pakistan?
Needs full review. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:31, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Roughly 2,000 chars of readable prose, with a mile-long list of buleted, unlinked names. However, I'm not here to rewrite it from scratch. The wp:lede is completely unrelated to First Families of Pakistan (which is the subject of this article). There's not a word of introduction to the actual list of families copy-pasted (word for word) from older articles such as Jinnah family (started April 11, 2012 by someone else). This article was created on September 9, 2012 via copy-paste as soon as Roscelese soft deleted (i.e. redirected) the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryam Nawaz Sharif to Maryam Nawaz with the edit summary: "amazing how parallel articles have existed so long! merge...". I feel I don't really have a choice but to reject it. The article isn't new by the rules of DYK. Besides, it is written against the basics of WP:MOS. Sorry BrownHairedGirl for the time you spent working on your alt. Poeticbent talk 03:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)