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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:97198|97198]] ([[User talk:97198|talk]]) 01:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
 
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* ... <s>that '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]''' organised a meeting at [[Jallianwala Bagh]] on 13 April 1919 and escaped the [[Jallianwala Bagh massacre]]?  <small>The meeting that day...had been arranged by a man named Hans Raj[https://books.google.co.uk/books?redir_esc=y&id=Mk7ptwEACAAJ&q=satypal#v=onepage&q=Hans%20Raj&f=false] who later escaped[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bziIDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=satya+pal+1919&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS3Jj3xbHkAhVMSsAKHUBWAGoQ6AEIKDAA#v=snippet&q=hans&f=false]</small></s>
 
* ... <s>that '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]''' organised a meeting at [[Jallianwala Bagh]] on 13 April 1919 and escaped the [[Jallianwala Bagh massacre]]?  <small>The meeting that day...had been arranged by a man named Hans Raj[https://books.google.co.uk/books?redir_esc=y&id=Mk7ptwEACAAJ&q=satypal#v=onepage&q=Hans%20Raj&f=false] who later escaped[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bziIDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=satya+pal+1919&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS3Jj3xbHkAhVMSsAKHUBWAGoQ6AEIKDAA#v=snippet&q=hans&f=false]</small></s>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that in 1919, Indian revolutionaries [[Satyapal]] and [[Saifuddin Kitchlew]] were convicted on the evidence given by '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]'''?  <small>[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bziIDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=satya+pal+1919&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS3Jj3xbHkAhVMSsAKHUBWAGoQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Satyapal%20&f=false]</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that in 1919, Indian revolutionaries [[Satyapal]] and [[Saifuddin Kitchlew]] were convicted on the evidence given by '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]'''?  <small>[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bziIDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=satya+pal+1919&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS3Jj3xbHkAhVMSsAKHUBWAGoQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Satyapal%20&f=false]</small>
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:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Alexander Gillies|Alexander Gillies]]
 
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<small>Created by [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) and [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) at 11:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) and [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) at 11:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC).</small>
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|comments    = *<s>'''ALT3'''... that to this day it is not known if '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]''', who turned state's witness for the [[British Raj]], had been a police agent all along? (Requires inline citation which is presently lacking.)</s>
 
|comments    = *<s>'''ALT3'''... that to this day it is not known if '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]''', who turned state's witness for the [[British Raj]], had been a police agent all along? (Requires inline citation which is presently lacking.)</s>
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:::Thanks for adding inline citations {{u|Whispyhistory}}. I will do some further tweaking to add more accurate terminology:
 
:::Thanks for adding inline citations {{u|Whispyhistory}}. I will do some further tweaking to add more accurate terminology:
 
:::'''ALT3b''' ... that historians have not concluded whether '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]''' turned [[Turn state's evidence|state's evidence]] for the [[British Raj]], or if he had been a police agent all along?
 
:::'''ALT3b''' ... that historians have not concluded whether '''[[Hans Raj (approver)|Hans Raj]]''' turned [[Turn state's evidence|state's evidence]] for the [[British Raj]], or if he had been a police agent all along?
:::[[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] I think ALT2 leaves too much to the imagination without framing what the subject was all about. At least as far as I am concerned, ALT3b is good to go. ALT1 would be my second choice. [[User:Havradim|Havradim]] ([[User talk:Havradim|talk]]) 13:44, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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:::[[File:Symbol voting keep.svg|16px]] I think ALT2 leaves too much to the imagination without framing what the subject was all about. At least as far as I am concerned, ALT3b is good to go. ALT1 would be my second choice. [[User:Havradim|Havradim]] ([[User talk:Havradim|talk]]) 13:44, 20 December 2019 (UTC)</div><includeonly>|}}</includeonly><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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Latest revision as of 01:07, 8 January 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 01:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Hans Raj (approver)

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 11:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC).

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Thanks for reviewing Template:Reply....I don't mind which hook, although ALT2 I thought might work. Everyone appears to agree he was suspicious. I tweaked yours a little to make Alt3a. Someone may have an alternative suggestion.
ALT3a...Historians have disputed whether Hans Raj, who turned state's witness for the British Raj, had been a police agent all along? Hans Raj's role, however, is contested history. Some Indian historians have argued that Jallianwala Bagh was a planned massacre, alleging that Hans Raj was a British spy who collaborated with Dyer, who wanted to punish Indians for the violence that had preceded the massacre ... Most British historians, however, either make little mention of Hans Raj or play down his role in the incident ... Most popular retellings of the incident—school textbooks ... etc.. or films and documentaries—simply omit Hans Raj[6] ... believed by some historians that Hans Raj was in league with local police[7]Whispyhistory (talk) 13:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for adding inline citations Template:U. I will do some further tweaking to add more accurate terminology:
ALT3b ... that historians have not concluded whether Hans Raj turned state's evidence for the British Raj, or if he had been a police agent all along?
Symbol voting keep.svg I think ALT2 leaves too much to the imagination without framing what the subject was all about. At least as far as I am concerned, ALT3b is good to go. ALT1 would be my second choice. Havradim (talk) 13:44, 20 December 2019 (UTC)