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* ... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female to have trained as a priest in the [[Church of England]] to be [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|consecrated as a bishop]]....?
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* ... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female to have trained as a priest in the [[Church of England]] to be [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|consecrated as a bishop]]?
 
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:* '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female [[Church of England]] priest to [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|become a bishop]], having joined the episcopate of the [[Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia]] in 2014 before women could become bishops in the Church of England....?
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:* '''ALT1''':<s>... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female [[Church of England]] priest to [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|become a bishop]], having joined the episcopate of the [[Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia]] in 2014 before women could become bishops in the Church of England....?</s>
 
:* '''ALT2''':... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first woman to have been ordained in the [[Church of England]] to become a [[bishop]]?
 
:* '''ALT2''':... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first woman to have been ordained in the [[Church of England]] to become a [[bishop]]?
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/San Isidro Labrador Church (Pulilan)]]
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/San Isidro Labrador Church (Pulilan)]]
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:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Length, date, sources, neutrality, originality, QPQ, and hook verified. As for the wording of the hook, I'd recommend this compromise between the versions:
 
:*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Length, date, sources, neutrality, originality, QPQ, and hook verified. As for the wording of the hook, I'd recommend this compromise between the versions:
::*'''ALT3''': ... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female [[Church of England]] priest to [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|become a bishop]]?
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::*'''ALT3''': <s>... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female [[Church of England]] priest to [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|become a bishop]]?</s>
 
::Her notability is clear enough in this version, and readers can consult the article for further explanation.--[[User:Lemuellio|Lemuellio]] ([[User talk:Lemuellio|talk]]) 21:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 
::Her notability is clear enough in this version, and readers can consult the article for further explanation.--[[User:Lemuellio|Lemuellio]] ([[User talk:Lemuellio|talk]]) 21:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 
:::The trouble is that she wasn't a working with the Church of England when she got elected bishop. So ALT3 is misleading in suggesting she was. She became a bishop outside of the C of E which is what I was trying to get across. Does that make sense? Or maybe I'm just being picky! [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]]<sup> [[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  22:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 
:::The trouble is that she wasn't a working with the Church of England when she got elected bishop. So ALT3 is misleading in suggesting she was. She became a bishop outside of the C of E which is what I was trying to get across. Does that make sense? Or maybe I'm just being picky! [[User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Gaia Octavia Agrippa]]<sup> [[User talk:Gaia Octavia Agrippa|Talk]]</sup>  22:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
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:::*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] I've struck ALT1 because it is indeed too long (well over the 200 absolute max for DYK), and ALT3 based on the objections of Gaia Octavia Agrippa. Can I suggest ALT4, a variant of ALT3 that might be even more "hooky" ("but" could be "though" if you'd prefer, or it could be "but in New Zealand rather than England"), and makes it clear she isn't an English bishop? [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 05:58, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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::::*'''ALT4''': ... that '''[[Helen-Ann Hartley]]''' is the first female [[Church of England]] priest to [[Ordination of women in the Anglican Communion|become a bishop]], but not in England?
  
 
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Helen-Ann Hartley

Created by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self nominated at 11:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date, sources, neutrality, originality, QPQ, and hook verified. As for the wording of the hook, I'd recommend this compromise between the versions:
Her notability is clear enough in this version, and readers can consult the article for further explanation.--Lemuellio (talk) 21:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
The trouble is that she wasn't a working with the Church of England when she got elected bishop. So ALT3 is misleading in suggesting she was. She became a bishop outside of the C of E which is what I was trying to get across. Does that make sense? Or maybe I'm just being picky! Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 22:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I've struck ALT1 because it is indeed too long (well over the 200 absolute max for DYK), and ALT3 based on the objections of Gaia Octavia Agrippa. Can I suggest ALT4, a variant of ALT3 that might be even more "hooky" ("but" could be "though" if you'd prefer, or it could be "but in New Zealand rather than England"), and makes it clear she isn't an English bishop? BlueMoonset (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2014 (UTC)