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:* ''Reviewed'': This is my first DYK nomination, and is exempt from QPQ.
 
:* ''Reviewed'': This is my first DYK nomination, and is exempt from QPQ.
 
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:**{{tq|"'''I Admit'''" is a 19-minute song by American singer [[R. Kelly]].<ref name="soundcloud">{{cite web|url=https://soundcloud.com/julius-darrington/rkelly-i-admit|title=R.Kelly "I Admit"|website=SoundCloud|date=July 23, 2018|accessdate=July 23, 2018|last=Darrington|first=Julius "A&R"}}</ref>}}
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:**{{tq|"'''I Admit'''" is a 19-minute song by American singer [[R. Kelly]].<ref name="soundcloud">{{cite web|url=https://soundcloud.com/julius-darrington/rkelly-i-admit|title=R.Kelly "I Admit"|website=SoundCloud|date=July 23, 2018|access-date=July 23, 2018|last=Darrington|first=Julius "A&R"}}</ref>}}
:**{{tq|Despite the song's title and Kelly's [[Repetition (music)|repetition]] of the lyric "I admit it, I did it" in the [[Refrain|chorus]],<ref name="broadly">{{cite web|first1=Leila|last1=Ettachfini|first2=Sarah|last2=Burke|accessdate=January 8, 2019|title=R. Kelly's Victimhood Doesn't Excuse His Alleged Sexual Misconduct|url=https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/qvmvg7/r-kelly-i-admit-sexual-assault-abuse-victim|date=July 24, 2018|website=Broadly}}</ref> "I Admit" does not contain any [[Admission (law)|criminal admissions]].<ref name="Time">{{cite web|accessdate=January 7, 2019|title=A Defense Attorney Listened to R. Kelly's 19-Minute Song 'I Admit.' This Is What She Thinks|url=http://time.com/5346369/r-kelly-i-admit-defense-attorney/|website=Time|date=July 23, 2018|first=Mahita|last=Gajanan}}</ref>}}
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:**{{tq|Despite the song's title and Kelly's [[Repetition (music)|repetition]] of the lyric "I admit it, I did it" in the [[Refrain|chorus]],<ref name="broadly">{{cite web|first1=Leila|last1=Ettachfini|first2=Sarah|last2=Burke|access-date=January 8, 2019|title=R. Kelly's Victimhood Doesn't Excuse His Alleged Sexual Misconduct|url=https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/qvmvg7/r-kelly-i-admit-sexual-assault-abuse-victim|date=July 24, 2018|website=Broadly}}</ref> "I Admit" does not contain any [[Admission (law)|criminal admissions]].<ref name="Time">{{cite web|access-date=January 7, 2019|title=A Defense Attorney Listened to R. Kelly's 19-Minute Song 'I Admit.' This Is What She Thinks|url=http://time.com/5346369/r-kelly-i-admit-defense-attorney/|website=Time|date=July 23, 2018|first=Mahita|last=Gajanan}}</ref>}}
:**{{tq|Several reviewers characterized "I Admit" as an act of [[trolling]], since the name of the song overstates the magnitude of the admissions contained within the lyrics.<ref name="NME">{{cite web|url=https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/r-kelly-i-admit-everything-we-learned-2358592|title=R Kelly’s 19-minute mea culpa ‘I Admit’, dissected and analysed|last=Britton|first=Luke Morgan|website=NME|date=July 25, 2018|accessdate=July 25, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|first1=Kevin C.|last1=Johnson|accessdate=January 7, 2019|title=Muting R. Kelly: Our music critic is finished with the Pied Piper of R&B|url=https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/kevin-johnson/muting-r-kelly-our-music-critic-is-finished-with-the/article_f0a8f675-17dc-5dc1-b2f5-ebe10e3bd51c.html|website=St. Louis Post-Dispatch|date=August 12, 2018}}</ref><ref name="The Daily Beast">{{cite news|first1=Stereo|last1=Williams|accessdate=January 7, 2019|title=R. Kelly’s Delusional Response to Sex Cult Allegations in ‘I Admit’: I’m the Victim Here|url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/r-kellys-delusional-response-to-sex-cult-allegations-in-i-admit-im-the-victim-here|website=The Daily Beast|date=July 23, 2018}}</ref>}}
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:**{{tq|Several reviewers characterized "I Admit" as an act of [[trolling]], since the name of the song overstates the magnitude of the admissions contained within the lyrics.<ref name="NME">{{cite web|url=https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/r-kelly-i-admit-everything-we-learned-2358592|title=R Kelly’s 19-minute mea culpa ‘I Admit’, dissected and analysed|last=Britton|first=Luke Morgan|website=NME|date=July 25, 2018|access-date=July 25, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|first1=Kevin C.|last1=Johnson|access-date=January 7, 2019|title=Muting R. Kelly: Our music critic is finished with the Pied Piper of R&B|url=https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/kevin-johnson/muting-r-kelly-our-music-critic-is-finished-with-the/article_f0a8f675-17dc-5dc1-b2f5-ebe10e3bd51c.html|website=St. Louis Post-Dispatch|date=August 12, 2018}}</ref><ref name="The Daily Beast">{{cite news|first1=Stereo|last1=Williams|access-date=January 7, 2019|title=R. Kelly’s Delusional Response to Sex Cult Allegations in ‘I Admit’: I’m the Victim Here|url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/r-kellys-delusional-response-to-sex-cult-allegations-in-i-admit-im-the-victim-here|website=The Daily Beast|date=July 23, 2018}}</ref>}}
:**{{tq|Elyse Wanshel of ''[[HuffPost]]'' noted similarities between this song and ''[[If I Did It]]'',<ref>{{cite news|first1=Elyse|last1=Wanshel|accessdate=January 8, 2019|title=R. Kelly Releases Song ‘I Admit’ And It Does The Opposite Of That|url=https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/r-kelly-releases-song-i-admit-and-it-does-the-opposite-of-that_us_5b5616a2e4b0de86f48f7ad0|website=HuffPost|date=July 23, 2018}}</ref> a book by [[O. J. Simpson]] that contains a hypothetical description of the alleged murder in [[O. J. Simpson murder case|Simpson's murder case]].<ref>{{cite web|accessdate=January 7, 2019|title=O.J. book sparks new outrage - The Boston Globe|url=http://archive.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2006/11/16/oj_book_sparks_new_outrage/|date=November 16, 2006|newspaper=Associated Press|via=''The Boston Globe''}}</ref>}}
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:**{{tq|Elyse Wanshel of ''[[HuffPost]]'' noted similarities between this song and ''[[If I Did It]]'',<ref>{{cite news|first1=Elyse|last1=Wanshel|access-date=January 8, 2019|title=R. Kelly Releases Song ‘I Admit’ And It Does The Opposite Of That|url=https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/r-kelly-releases-song-i-admit-and-it-does-the-opposite-of-that_us_5b5616a2e4b0de86f48f7ad0|website=HuffPost|date=July 23, 2018}}</ref> a book by [[O. J. Simpson]] that contains a hypothetical description of the alleged murder in [[O. J. Simpson murder case|Simpson's murder case]].<ref>{{cite web|access-date=January 7, 2019|title=O.J. book sparks new outrage - The Boston Globe|url=http://archive.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2006/11/16/oj_book_sparks_new_outrage/|date=November 16, 2006|newspaper=Associated Press|via=''The Boston Globe''}}</ref>}}
 
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<small>Improved to Good Article status by [[User:Newslinger|Newslinger]] ([[User talk:Newslinger|talk]]). Self-nominated at 03:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Improved to Good Article status by [[User:Newslinger|Newslinger]] ([[User talk:Newslinger|talk]]). Self-nominated at 03:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC).</small>

Latest revision as of 00:51, 19 December 2020

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

I Admit (R. Kelly song)

Template:Tref Improved to Good Article status by Newslinger (talk). Self-nominated at 03:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good article, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citations check out, QPQ not needed. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this. While you've provided a lot of alts basically saying the same thing, I think you're assuming that most readers know about Kelly's background and can therefore understand/appreciate these hooks. Personally, I've never heard of him. I think you would do better by adding more background to the hooks, like that while admitting to X, Y, and Z in his song "I Admit", R. Kelly makes no criminal admissions, or that in response to the song "I Admit", R. Kelly's ex-wife sang her own song, "Admit It", or that a critic compared the song to O. J. Simpson's book (this last one will for sure draw readers). Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
    Hi Template:U, I tried to stay away from specific details related to Kelly's sex scandals and allegations, since WP:DYKHOOK advises against Template:Tq and Kelly's sexual abuse trials are still ongoing. I provided all of these alts to let the reviewer include as much information as they are comfortable with, while still adhering to this rule. However, the hook ended up being less controversial than I had expected.

    Thanks for suggesting the inclusion of If I Did It. Here is an alt that hopefully gives more of what you're looking for:

    ALT8:... that R. Kelly's 19-minute song "I Admit", which contains no criminal admissions, was described as an act of trolling and compared to O. J. Simpson's book If I Did It?
    I've added a new supporting source to the list of sources above. — Newslinger talk 08:01, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you, ALT8 looks very good. Since I suggested something along those lines, pinging Template:Ping to review ALT8. Yoninah (talk) 18:50, 29 April 2019 (UTC)