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* ... that '''[[James Henry Marriott]]''' ''(pictured)'' was the first producer of regular productions of plays in [[New Zealand]]? <small>Source: {{DNZB|title=James Henry Marriott|first= Peter|last= Downes|id=1m15|accessdate= 1 March 2019}}</small> | * ... that '''[[James Henry Marriott]]''' ''(pictured)'' was the first producer of regular productions of plays in [[New Zealand]]? <small>Source: {{DNZB|title=James Henry Marriott|first= Peter|last= Downes|id=1m15|accessdate= 1 March 2019}}</small> | ||
** <del>'''ALT1''':... that '''[[James Henry Marriott]]''' ''(pictured)'' was the first [[New Zealand]] [[playwright]] to have a play debut on stage?</del> <small>Source: {{DNZB|title=James Henry Marriott|first= Peter|last= Downes|id=1m15|accessdate= 1 March 2019}}</small> | ** <del>'''ALT1''':... that '''[[James Henry Marriott]]''' ''(pictured)'' was the first [[New Zealand]] [[playwright]] to have a play debut on stage?</del> <small>Source: {{DNZB|title=James Henry Marriott|first= Peter|last= Downes|id=1m15|accessdate= 1 March 2019}}</small> | ||
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:* ''Comment'': (1) The article Henry James Marriott was a stub for some time, then became a redirect. My expansion was moved to mainspace, to replace the redirect, on 2 March 2019. (2) I'm not sure if the optometry-optics link in ALT2 is correct (not my subject), so it needs checking. | :* ''Comment'': (1) The article Henry James Marriott was a stub for some time, then became a redirect. My expansion was moved to mainspace, to replace the redirect, on 2 March 2019. (2) I'm not sure if the optometry-optics link in ALT2 is correct (not my subject), so it needs checking. | ||
<small>5x expanded by [[User:Storye book|Storye book]] ([[User talk:Storye book|talk]]). Self-nominated at 13:59, 2 March 2019 (UTC).</small> | <small>5x expanded by [[User:Storye book|Storye book]] ([[User talk:Storye book|talk]]). Self-nominated at 13:59, 2 March 2019 (UTC).</small> | ||
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: [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] What a life! On good sources, the one I can't see accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and shows the period well. - Of the hooks, I like the theatre premiere (ALT1) best, but think the normal wording would be "world premiere", not debut, which is rather used as "he made his debut as ...", and "on stage" deems redundant. Reword als ALT3? - In the article, the last image seems pretty useless, at least I see nothing ;) - I'd write more summary of ''his'' life in the lead than mention relatives, but that's up to you. | : [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] What a life! On good sources, the one I can't see accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and shows the period well. - Of the hooks, I like the theatre premiere (ALT1) best, but think the normal wording would be "world premiere", not debut, which is rather used as "he made his debut as ...", and "on stage" deems redundant. Reword als ALT3? - In the article, the last image seems pretty useless, at least I see nothing ;) - I'd write more summary of ''his'' life in the lead than mention relatives, but that's up to you. | ||
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:::::* '''ALT4''' ... that entertainer '''[[James Henry Marriott]]''' ''(pictured)'' became one of the earliest European settlers of [[Wellington]], New Zealand, when he arrived there in 1843? <small>Source: {{cite web|url=http://www.narit.or.th/en/files/2015JAHHvol18/2015JAHH...18..261O.pdf |title=James Henry Marriott, New Zealand's first professional telescope-maker |last=Orchiston |first=Wayne |date=January 2015 |website=Journal of Astronomical History and Heritage|publisher=narit.or.th |access-date=26 February 2019|quote= }}, and {{DNZB|title=James Henry Marriott|first= Peter|last= Downes|id=1m15|accessdate= 1 March 2019}}</small> | :::::* '''ALT4''' ... that entertainer '''[[James Henry Marriott]]''' ''(pictured)'' became one of the earliest European settlers of [[Wellington]], New Zealand, when he arrived there in 1843? <small>Source: {{cite web|url=http://www.narit.or.th/en/files/2015JAHHvol18/2015JAHH...18..261O.pdf |title=James Henry Marriott, New Zealand's first professional telescope-maker |last=Orchiston |first=Wayne |date=January 2015 |website=Journal of Astronomical History and Heritage|publisher=narit.or.th |access-date=26 February 2019|quote= }}, and {{DNZB|title=James Henry Marriott|first= Peter|last= Downes|id=1m15|accessdate= 1 March 2019}}</small> | ||
::::::: Thank you, but I believe the play would be more interesting, and what's wrong with that? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC) | ::::::: Thank you, but I believe the play would be more interesting, and what's wrong with that? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC) | ||
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Latest revision as of 19:29, 8 April 2019
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:29, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
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James Henry Marriott

Marriott in Odd Fellows costume
- ... that James Henry Marriott (pictured) was the first producer of regular productions of plays in New Zealand? Source: Downes, Peter. "James Henry Marriott". Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. Ministry for Culture and Heritage. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
ALT1:... that James Henry Marriott (pictured) was the first New Zealand playwright to have a play debut on stage?Source: Downes, Peter. "James Henry Marriott". Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. Ministry for Culture and Heritage. Retrieved 1 March 2019.- ALT2:... that James Henry Marriott (pictured) was the first optics professional in New Zealand to make a telescope? Source: Orchiston, Wayne (January 2015). "James Henry Marriott, New Zealand's first professional telescope-maker" (PDF). Journal of Astronomical History and Heritage. narit.or.th. Retrieved 26 February 2019.
- Reviewed: Lord, have mercy upon us (Mendelssohn)
- Comment: (1) The article Henry James Marriott was a stub for some time, then became a redirect. My expansion was moved to mainspace, to replace the redirect, on 2 March 2019. (2) I'm not sure if the optometry-optics link in ALT2 is correct (not my subject), so it needs checking.
5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 13:59, 2 March 2019 (UTC).
What a life! On good sources, the one I can't see accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and shows the period well. - Of the hooks, I like the theatre premiere (ALT1) best, but think the normal wording would be "world premiere", not debut, which is rather used as "he made his debut as ...", and "on stage" deems redundant. Reword als ALT3? - In the article, the last image seems pretty useless, at least I see nothing ;) - I'd write more summary of his life in the lead than mention relatives, but that's up to you.
- ALT3:... that James Henry Marriott (pictured) was the first New Zealand playwright to have a world premiere? Source: Downes, Peter. "James Henry Marriott". Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. Ministry for Culture and Heritage. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
- Thanks, Gerda, for the review. I have added more about his life in the article header, and explained the last image. You do have to click on that image to see Marriott standing there in front of his mock-classical wooden false-front hall, proudly in a tall hat, with his chest puffed out and holding his lapels, Victorian-style - but worth the effort! Storye book (talk) 09:53, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, for both. If you or someone watching come up with better wording, - I'll watch. I could imagine to name the play, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
I think this needs a better hook. Most of the "facts" are inaccurate, and there is plenty of interesting stuff in the biography to find something different. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that entertainer James Henry Marriott (pictured) became one of the earliest European settlers of Wellington, New Zealand, when he arrived there in 1843? Source: Orchiston, Wayne (January 2015). "James Henry Marriott, New Zealand's first professional telescope-maker" (PDF). Journal of Astronomical History and Heritage. narit.or.th. Retrieved 26 February 2019., and Downes, Peter. "James Henry Marriott". Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. Ministry for Culture and Heritage. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
- Thank you, but I believe the play would be more interesting, and what's wrong with that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC)