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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 17:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)<br />
 
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====Judicial independence in Australia====
 
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* ... that ...[[Chief Justice of Australia|Chief Justice]] [[Murray Gleeson]] suggested that public confidence in the '''[[Judicial independence in Australia|independence of Australian judges]]''' largely consists of taking things for granted?  <small>Source: http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/speeches/former-justices/gleesoncj/cj_9feb07.pdf pages 5 & 11.</small>
 
* ... that ...[[Chief Justice of Australia|Chief Justice]] [[Murray Gleeson]] suggested that public confidence in the '''[[Judicial independence in Australia|independence of Australian judges]]''' largely consists of taking things for granted?  <small>Source: http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/speeches/former-justices/gleesoncj/cj_9feb07.pdf pages 5 & 11.</small>
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/The Aboriginal Mother|The Aboriginal Mother]]
 
:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/The Aboriginal Mother|The Aboriginal Mother]]
 
<small>Created by [[User:Find bruce|Find bruce]] ([[User talk:Find bruce|talk]]). Self-nominated at 01:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Find bruce|Find bruce]] ([[User talk:Find bruce|talk]]). Self-nominated at 01:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC).</small>
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|comments    = The QPQ is underway, so far as I can see, but more may be required before it is complete. I have tagged several quotes in the article that need close citation. Otherwise, this is looking good. Also, the hook needs "political" inserted before "independence" to truly reflect the source.<!---Put any other comments you may have here--->
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|comments    = The QPQ is underway, so far as I can see, but more may be required before it is complete. I have tagged several quotes in the article that need close citation. Otherwise, this is looking good. Also, the hook needs "political" inserted before "independence" to truly reflect the source.
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|sign        = [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 08:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
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:Thanks for the review {{ping|Peacemaker67}}. QPQ is not required (currently 2 DYK credits) but in any event, having suggested alternate hooks I can't take the review of The Aboriginal Mother any further. What I did do was finish the review of [[Template:Did you know nominations/2001 Harrah's 500|2001 Harrah's 500]] which was stuck for the same reason & suggested some alternate hooks to [[Template:Did you know nominations/Giovanni Cosimo Bonomo|Giovanni Cosimo Bonomo]] so that review could progress. Each of the tags was placed shortly before the relevant reference, so I am not sure that further reference was required per [[WP:CITEDENSE]], but it was no big deal to duplicate the reference at the points you tagged.
 
:Thanks for the review {{ping|Peacemaker67}}. QPQ is not required (currently 2 DYK credits) but in any event, having suggested alternate hooks I can't take the review of The Aboriginal Mother any further. What I did do was finish the review of [[Template:Did you know nominations/2001 Harrah's 500|2001 Harrah's 500]] which was stuck for the same reason & suggested some alternate hooks to [[Template:Did you know nominations/Giovanni Cosimo Bonomo|Giovanni Cosimo Bonomo]] so that review could progress. Each of the tags was placed shortly before the relevant reference, so I am not sure that further reference was required per [[WP:CITEDENSE]], but it was no big deal to duplicate the reference at the points you tagged.
 
:In terms of hooks, Gleeson states at pg 5 "Much of what we call public confidence consists of taking things for granted". I presume you are referring to pg 11 where he says "Australians largely take for granted the political independence of judges" the context of this however is the statement from pp 10-11 "There is a useful practical indicator of the judiciary's general reputation for impartiality. ... the assumption is that the outcome of an enquiry will be accepted more readily by the public if it can be described as judicial.  It is obvious that one of the attractions to government of former judges to conduct enquiries is the aura of impartiality that is brought by their former status". While I do not agree that political must be inserted to reflect the source, I am happy to put it forward as an alternative. Happy to develop other alternatives if there is anything that struck you as a suitable subject. [[User:Find bruce|Find bruce]] ([[User talk:Find bruce|talk]]) 03:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:In terms of hooks, Gleeson states at pg 5 "Much of what we call public confidence consists of taking things for granted". I presume you are referring to pg 11 where he says "Australians largely take for granted the political independence of judges" the context of this however is the statement from pp 10-11 "There is a useful practical indicator of the judiciary's general reputation for impartiality. ... the assumption is that the outcome of an enquiry will be accepted more readily by the public if it can be described as judicial.  It is obvious that one of the attractions to government of former judges to conduct enquiries is the aura of impartiality that is brought by their former status". While I do not agree that political must be inserted to reflect the source, I am happy to put it forward as an alternative. Happy to develop other alternatives if there is anything that struck you as a suitable subject. [[User:Find bruce|Find bruce]] ([[User talk:Find bruce|talk]]) 03:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 
** '''ALT1''':... that [[Chief Justice of Australia|Chief Justice]] [[Murray Gleeson]] suggested that public confidence in the political '''[[Judicial independence in Australia|independence of Australian judges]]''' largely consists of taking things for granted?
 
** '''ALT1''':... that [[Chief Justice of Australia|Chief Justice]] [[Murray Gleeson]] suggested that public confidence in the political '''[[Judicial independence in Australia|independence of Australian judges]]''' largely consists of taking things for granted?
***[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] No worries. All good now, QPQ has been done but wasn't required. Quotes are now all cited closely. I prefer '''ALT1''' as I consider it is closer to the source, but can see the argument for the primary hook. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 04:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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***[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] No worries. All good now, QPQ has been done but wasn't required. Quotes are now all cited closely. I prefer '''ALT1''' as I consider it is closer to the source, but can see the argument for the primary hook. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 04:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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Latest revision as of 17:57, 16 January 2019

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 17:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Judicial independence in Australia

Created by Find bruce (talk). Self-nominated at 01:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC).

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Thanks for the review Template:Ping. QPQ is not required (currently 2 DYK credits) but in any event, having suggested alternate hooks I can't take the review of The Aboriginal Mother any further. What I did do was finish the review of 2001 Harrah's 500 which was stuck for the same reason & suggested some alternate hooks to Giovanni Cosimo Bonomo so that review could progress. Each of the tags was placed shortly before the relevant reference, so I am not sure that further reference was required per WP:CITEDENSE, but it was no big deal to duplicate the reference at the points you tagged.
In terms of hooks, Gleeson states at pg 5 "Much of what we call public confidence consists of taking things for granted". I presume you are referring to pg 11 where he says "Australians largely take for granted the political independence of judges" the context of this however is the statement from pp 10-11 "There is a useful practical indicator of the judiciary's general reputation for impartiality. ... the assumption is that the outcome of an enquiry will be accepted more readily by the public if it can be described as judicial. It is obvious that one of the attractions to government of former judges to conduct enquiries is the aura of impartiality that is brought by their former status". While I do not agree that political must be inserted to reflect the source, I am happy to put it forward as an alternative. Happy to develop other alternatives if there is anything that struck you as a suitable subject. Find bruce (talk) 03:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)