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::*Suggest using ALT1 hook. Image can be used as well.[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 15:56, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 
::*Suggest using ALT1 hook. Image can be used as well.[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 15:56, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 
:::*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Striking both hooks. The original hook implies that Dickens was asked after the conviction was changed to a lesser offense, which is not supported by the article. (It seems more likely that his intervention was requested after the initial conviction and in aid of the appeal that eventually succeeding in reducing the offense, but again the article doesn't say.) And the article clearly states that she died "at the former Collegio Medico", but it's not at all clear that the school was still a going concern, which renders ALT1 problematic as well. Can we please have a new hook, or a reworked version of either or both of the above that is supported in the article? Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 16:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 
:::*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Striking both hooks. The original hook implies that Dickens was asked after the conviction was changed to a lesser offense, which is not supported by the article. (It seems more likely that his intervention was requested after the initial conviction and in aid of the appeal that eventually succeeding in reducing the offense, but again the article doesn't say.) And the article clearly states that she died "at the former Collegio Medico", but it's not at all clear that the school was still a going concern, which renders ALT1 problematic as well. Can we please have a new hook, or a reworked version of either or both of the above that is supported in the article? Many thanks. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 16:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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*::::{{yo|BlueMoonset}} - the article says "and when she was found guilty of causing the death (reduced on appeal to cruelty) she tried unsuccessfully to get the novelist Charles Dickens to intercede" You may think it more likely. You say "It seems more likely that his intervention was requested after the initial conviction"... that's what the article says. As for the school...... the hook doesnt say it was a going concern. If I travel to a school, I started the year after it stopped being a school, and die then I will still die in a school I founded. You may think that this implies that the school was still working when I died but that is just OR. I think you are finding unusual interpretations and then looking for the support. BabbaQ has checked these. You are implying the checking is wrong and I don't think it is. Can you explain the point you are trying to make more fully. Are you sure you are not asking for more than is required? [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 20:58, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 
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Revision as of 20:59, 3 October 2015

Julie Schwabe

Julie Salis Schwabe
Julie Salis Schwabe
  • ... that philanthropist Julie Schwabe asked Dickens to help when her ex-governess's conviction was reduced from murder to cruelty?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 12:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg new enough, long enough, inline citations and closed paragraphs checks. factual and interesting reading. BabbaQ (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Suggest using ALT1 hook. Image can be used as well.BabbaQ (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Striking both hooks. The original hook implies that Dickens was asked after the conviction was changed to a lesser offense, which is not supported by the article. (It seems more likely that his intervention was requested after the initial conviction and in aid of the appeal that eventually succeeding in reducing the offense, but again the article doesn't say.) And the article clearly states that she died "at the former Collegio Medico", but it's not at all clear that the school was still a going concern, which renders ALT1 problematic as well. Can we please have a new hook, or a reworked version of either or both of the above that is supported in the article? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Template:Yo - the article says "and when she was found guilty of causing the death (reduced on appeal to cruelty) she tried unsuccessfully to get the novelist Charles Dickens to intercede" You may think it more likely. You say "It seems more likely that his intervention was requested after the initial conviction"... that's what the article says. As for the school...... the hook doesnt say it was a going concern. If I travel to a school, I started the year after it stopped being a school, and die then I will still die in a school I founded. You may think that this implies that the school was still working when I died but that is just OR. I think you are finding unusual interpretations and then looking for the support. BabbaQ has checked these. You are implying the checking is wrong and I don't think it is. Can you explain the point you are trying to make more fully. Are you sure you are not asking for more than is required? Victuallers (talk) 20:58, 3 October 2015 (UTC)