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::*{{u|Yoninah}}, You have this wrong, because the subject is not a film, it is a performer. DYK has run many hooks of this kind. Can you quote any DYK rule that applies here? C6 clearly does not. [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]] ([[User talk:Moonraker|talk]]) 14:14, 19 April 2020 (UTC)  
 
::*{{u|Yoninah}}, You have this wrong, because the subject is not a film, it is a performer. DYK has run many hooks of this kind. Can you quote any DYK rule that applies here? C6 clearly does not. [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]] ([[User talk:Moonraker|talk]]) 14:14, 19 April 2020 (UTC)  
 
::'''ALT2:''' ... that '''[[Leal Douglas]]''' was once called perhaps the most beautiful vampire on the English screen? [[User:Valereee|—valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 11:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::'''ALT2:''' ... that '''[[Leal Douglas]]''' was once called perhaps the most beautiful vampire on the English screen? [[User:Valereee|—valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 11:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::{{u|Valereee}}, thank you for the effort, and I don’t see any problem with that, though I still prefer the original hook, which is within the rules. [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]] ([[User talk:Moonraker|talk]]) 14:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC) 
 
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Leal Douglas

Leal Douglas
Leal Douglas
  • ... that in The Beetle (1919), Leal Douglas (pictured) played an Egyptian princess who can transform herself into a man or a beetle?
    Source: Jonathan Rigby, English Gothic: A Century of Horror Cinema (Reynolds & Hearn, 2004), p. 16

Created/expanded by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, and thoroughly sourced. Earwig found no copyvio. QPQ done. Offline sources accepted per WP:AGF. Hook properly sourced, within rules; I find the main hook much more interesting than ALT1. Image looks ok at low sizes and PD claims appear valid. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but just telling the plotline does not satisfy Rule C6. And ALT1 is not as interesting. Yoninah (talk) 01:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oops, forgot that rule, sorry. Yes, I agree. We need a hook that is hooky and relates to the real world. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:09, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:U, I agree ALT1 is less interesting than the main hook, but that would not be difficult. The main hook is surely okay. “C6: If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way.” But the subject is Leal Douglas, who is neither of those things, she was a real person. Even if the subject had been The Beetle, which it isn’t, the real world would still be involved, because Leal Douglas is a real person playing a role in the filming of a work of fiction. So C6 is not relevant to this hook, which is the strongest one there is. Moonraker (talk) 08:49, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorry, the hook is just a plot point. Yoninah (talk) 11:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:U, You have this wrong, because the subject is not a film, it is a performer. DYK has run many hooks of this kind. Can you quote any DYK rule that applies here? C6 clearly does not. Moonraker (talk) 14:14, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Leal Douglas was once called perhaps the most beautiful vampire on the English screen? —valereee (talk) 11:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Template:U, thank you for the effort, and I don’t see any problem with that, though I still prefer the original hook, which is within the rules. Moonraker (talk) 14:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)