Template:Did you know nominations/Milo Moiré

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Milo Moiré

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• ... that performance artist Milo Moiré's work has been called "absurd, gratuitous, trite and desperate"?

• Reviewed: CitizenShipper

Created by Philafrenzy (talk), Edwardx (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:04, 6 July 2014 (UTC).

• 16px New enough, long enough, well-sourced and (with multiple major newspapers covering multiple art events) clearly notable. The hook is properly sourced and I think the negative wording serves more to intrigue than attack. The QPQ has been done. Spot-checking found no problems with unattributed copying. I made a small change to the proposed hook to link performance art; with that, I think it's good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:13, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Pulled this from prep per two concerns at TDYK: BLP because the hook is one-sided, and possibility of a better hook. EEng (talk) 17:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

• I don't think the hook is intended as direct criticism, rather it is to provoke curiosity and I note that the quote is in a piece linked from Milo Moiré's own website, but how about

• ALT1 " ... that performance artist Milo Moiré claims her naked works are inspired by the script theory of cognitive psychology?"

Philafrenzy (talk) 17:31, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Well if I understand properly from TDYK someone apparently said that she "makes Lady Gaga's 'vomit artist' look tame" so there's plenty to choose from. I'm taking my 4 1/2 y.o. nephew to the part now, and teach him to say hippopotamus, so you guys figure something out. EEng (talk) 18:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

16px I didn't think the first hook was particularly problematic, but the new one is more informative and less linkbait, so that's an improvement. How about we go with this one. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I understand from Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#BLP_in_Prep_1, that this nom has been reopened. So, here's an ALT2 that hopefully offers a more balance critical view than my original hook. Edwardx (talk) 13:10, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

• ALT2 " ... that performance artist Milo Moiré's work has been called "absurd, gratuitous, trite" and "makes Lady Gaga's 'vomit artist' look tame"?

You're behind the curve, Ed-x. The pull was like 5 posts up. EEng (talk) 18:01, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

• If the original hook was problematic, this one has the same problems. In addition, it is hard to see why you think this is "more balance" when it is entirely negative in tone. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I agree, though the vomit bit alone might be seen as critically ambiguous. Can we agree DE should green-tick ALT1 and strike the others? EEng (talk) 18:01, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Attempting to rewrite my hook was perhaps "desperate". ALT1 is a fine hook. Edwardx (talk) 19:04, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

• 16px Ok, so now we seem to be agreed, let's add one more little green tick mark for good luck. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:07, 16 July 2014 (UTC)