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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye7|talk]]) 23:10, 25 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
 
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[[File:Vincent van Gogh - Le Moulin de blute-fin(1886).jpg|100x100px|''[[Le Moulin de la Galette (Van Gogh series)#Blute-Fin windmill paintings|Le blute-fin mill]]'' (1886) by [[Vincent van Gogh]]]]
 
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* ... that the authenticity of a 1886 [[Vincent van Gogh|Van Gogh]] painting ''[[Le Moulin de la Galette (Van Gogh series)#Blute-Fin windmill paintings|Le Blute-Fin Windmill]]'' ''(pictured)'' in the collection of '''[[Museum de Fundatie]]''' was established in 2010 by the [[Van Gogh Museum]]?
 
* ... that the authenticity of a 1886 [[Vincent van Gogh|Van Gogh]] painting ''[[Le Moulin de la Galette (Van Gogh series)#Blute-Fin windmill paintings|Le Blute-Fin Windmill]]'' ''(pictured)'' in the collection of '''[[Museum de Fundatie]]''' was established in 2010 by the [[Van Gogh Museum]]?
 
<small>Created by [[User:Editør|Editør]] ([[User talk:Editør|talk]]). Self nominated at 20:21, 7 July 2014 (UTC)</small>.
 
<small>Created by [[User:Editør|Editør]] ([[User talk:Editør|talk]]). Self nominated at 20:21, 7 July 2014 (UTC)</small>.
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:*Technical requirements: At about 1800 words it is long enough, started and nominated on 7 July, so certainly new enough; Editør does not show up in the QPQ list, so no quid pro quo reviewing requirement... The article is written neutrally. The hook is formally not fully cited, as the article refers only to the French article (Le Blute-Fin Mill), as do the other sources I could find... The article furthermore does not explicitly mention that it was the Van Gogh museum doing the authentication, so it will need an additional source after hook saying just that. Further more, there are several paintings called "Le Blute-Fin mill", so maybe "the 1886 Van Gogh painting" should become "a 1886 Van Gogh painting". Finally, the hook can be shortened by removing "in Zwolle", as otherwise there is a bit too much of tangentially related info in...
 
:*Technical requirements: At about 1800 words it is long enough, started and nominated on 7 July, so certainly new enough; Editør does not show up in the QPQ list, so no quid pro quo reviewing requirement... The article is written neutrally. The hook is formally not fully cited, as the article refers only to the French article (Le Blute-Fin Mill), as do the other sources I could find... The article furthermore does not explicitly mention that it was the Van Gogh museum doing the authentication, so it will need an additional source after hook saying just that. Further more, there are several paintings called "Le Blute-Fin mill", so maybe "the 1886 Van Gogh painting" should become "a 1886 Van Gogh painting". Finally, the hook can be shortened by removing "in Zwolle", as otherwise there is a bit too much of tangentially related info in...
 
:*Regarding the article, there are some smaller uncited details. "Fundatie" is not a very usual Dutch word (fundering is), and is normally not translated in English-language sources, so I suggest to leave it out. The date of establishment is cited to a consulting agency's website ([http://www.menschmuseology.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/museumlijst1.pdf here]), although [[Peter van Mensch|its author]] seems to have some standing. The addresses cited in the infobox seem not necessary, as we are not a guidebook...  
 
:*Regarding the article, there are some smaller uncited details. "Fundatie" is not a very usual Dutch word (fundering is), and is normally not translated in English-language sources, so I suggest to leave it out. The date of establishment is cited to a consulting agency's website ([http://www.menschmuseology.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/museumlijst1.pdf here]), although [[Peter van Mensch|its author]] seems to have some standing. The addresses cited in the infobox seem not necessary, as we are not a guidebook...  
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::::*:Thanks! – Editør ([[User talk:Editør|talk]]) 19:40, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 
::::*:Thanks! – Editør ([[User talk:Editør|talk]]) 19:40, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
  
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Latest revision as of 23:10, 25 July 2014

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Museum de Fundatie

Created by Editør (talk). Self nominated at 20:21, 7 July 2014 (UTC).

  • Technical requirements: At about 1800 words it is long enough, started and nominated on 7 July, so certainly new enough; Editør does not show up in the QPQ list, so no quid pro quo reviewing requirement... The article is written neutrally. The hook is formally not fully cited, as the article refers only to the French article (Le Blute-Fin Mill), as do the other sources I could find... The article furthermore does not explicitly mention that it was the Van Gogh museum doing the authentication, so it will need an additional source after hook saying just that. Further more, there are several paintings called "Le Blute-Fin mill", so maybe "the 1886 Van Gogh painting" should become "a 1886 Van Gogh painting". Finally, the hook can be shortened by removing "in Zwolle", as otherwise there is a bit too much of tangentially related info in...
  • Regarding the article, there are some smaller uncited details. "Fundatie" is not a very usual Dutch word (fundering is), and is normally not translated in English-language sources, so I suggest to leave it out. The date of establishment is cited to a consulting agency's website (here), although its author seems to have some standing. The addresses cited in the infobox seem not necessary, as we are not a guidebook...
  • Images are ok (added an extra tag for [File:Isaac Israels - Woman before Sunflowers by van Gogh, 1917.JPG this one].
  • If the issues are solved, it looks good to go! L.tak (talk) 20:03, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
    The article does mention that is was the Van Gogh Museum who authenticated the painting ("In 2010, the Van Gogh painting The blute-fin mill (1886) was authenticated by the Van Gogh Museum."), but I've added second source for the hook in case it was unclear.
    The word Fundatie comes from the name Hannema–de Stuers Fundatie, which is translated on the museum website as Hannema–de Stuers Foundation [1] (see last sentence), so it is simply a translation of the name.
    Regarding your phrasing suggestions, I'm not sure if they really improve the hook, but will not object to them. – Editør (talk) 09:32, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Ah, that makes sense (Fundatie/Foundation); so that's ok.. I did not find the complete citation regarding the Van Gogh Museum authentication in the CBS article used for the citation, but with the NRC hook that point indeed is solved... L.tak (talk) 09:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
    Have all issues been dealt with or addressed to your satisfaction? – Editør (talk) 13:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
    Template:Ping in case you missed my question. – Editør (talk) 12:53, 25 July 2014 (UTC)