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*'''Comment''' Before reading the source, I thought he painted paintings with a little something ''added'' to the picture... I did not think that he would actually smear paint on those parts. But I have to admit, it's very well-written. ☯ [[User:Bonkers The Clown|<font color = "Jade" face="Arial">'''Bonkers''' ''The Clown''</font>]] '''\(^_^)/''' '''[[User talk:Bonkers The Clown| Nonsensical Babble]]''' ☯ 13:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC) | *'''Comment''' Before reading the source, I thought he painted paintings with a little something ''added'' to the picture... I did not think that he would actually smear paint on those parts. But I have to admit, it's very well-written. ☯ [[User:Bonkers The Clown|<font color = "Jade" face="Arial">'''Bonkers''' ''The Clown''</font>]] '''\(^_^)/''' '''[[User talk:Bonkers The Clown| Nonsensical Babble]]''' ☯ 13:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
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| + | *Just to notify you all at DYK: Russavia has just been indeffed by [[User:Spartaz]] and there's now a discussion on [[WP:ANI]]. —[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] ([[User talk:Tom Morris|talk]]) 14:01, 19 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Pricasso
- ... that Pricasso (pictured) is an Australian painter who has gained fame for painting portraits with his penis, scrotum and buttocks?
Created/expanded by Russavia (talk). Self nominated at 23:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC).
- Please note that I am still working some on the article, but in mainspace, but as with all of my articles they are meticulously sourced so please do not worry about this aspect of it still being worked on. Russavia (talk) 23:23, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- Somewhere I am suppose to note what article I reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Darrell Tryon. Russavia (talk) 00:24, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Is there any source for the age of this man? The Legend of Zorro 00:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- In this interview from 2013, he states he is 63. I've still got more sources to scour for information, but I don't recall any giving an actual date of birth. Russavia (talk) 00:44, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- I will not do a full review, but here are two comments:
- Is YouTube a reliable source (especially for a BLP)?
- What about WP:CENSORMAIN?
- Youtube is not the source, the source is Metropolis TV, which is reliable, it's just that it's a video source. WP:CENSORMAIN is not relevant here, due to there not being a distasteful image as part of the hook, and the article is about an artist, who just happens to paint with his penis. I have NO DOUBT that if this article is made the lead hook that it could possibly be one of the highest viewed DYKS of all time. I'll report back in a day or two on progress, as I am still adding information, etc to the article. Russavia (talk) 01:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- OK, maybe I'm going out on a limb here as WP:CENSORMAIN doesn't say it, but I don't personally think that anything blatantly offensive (say, um, an article of a picture of a guy painting with his p*n*s) should be linked to from a main page (imagine some 8-year-old clicks on it (many will, no doubt), and encounters this file). Note: I'm not saying the article itself should be censored, just that maybe it shouldn't really be on the main page. King Jakob C2 01:47, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
You know, it is not the children who get bent out of shape when they see a penis, especially a penis put to use as a painting brush, but rather some adults, writing on behalf of the straw man 8-yearold. This article is undoubtedly educational, and the subject, amusingly notable. Really, let's not get out of whack over this. It's quite mild, comparing to what else an 8-yearold might encounter on Wikipedia. --Mareklug talk 02:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- I do not see how the image can be used on the main page. Clicking on the image, uploaded by Russavia, leads to the Commons file page with its link to the original on flickr. But on flickr an account is required to view this image and possibly any image related to Pricasso, presumably because of flickr's own safe viewing and protection policies. Those policies are far more careful and finely judged than those of Commons. Because of that I believe that if there is a hook (possibly with less "in your face" wording), there should be no accompanying image. It is unclear how stable the article will be, since at one stage it contained an image and content related to Jimmy Wales. The creation history of the file is not accessible to non-administrators, since Russavia requested that the two pages in his user space be deleted. None of that history is viewable. Nor the fact that at a certain stage the article was fully protected by User:Future Perfect at Sunrise. Jimmy Wales found the content relating to himself offensive and harassing. As a consequence, per BLP policies, Russavia was topic banned from all matters related to Jimmy Wales by User:Newyorkbrad. The article should presumably have been moved with the history of its creation intact, which is not the case. Given that previous content in the incubating article has already resulted in a topic ban for Russavia, any decision about placing a link to it on the main page with an image should have a delay of at least a week (or possibly longer) to allow other editors to express their opinions. It is unclear whether this article was created to make a WP:POINT, but its deleted history, the BLP related problems with Jimmy Wales, the topic ban and the previous page protection raise doubts. Mathsci (talk) 03:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- OK, maybe I'm going out on a limb here as WP:CENSORMAIN doesn't say it, but I don't personally think that anything blatantly offensive (say, um, an article of a picture of a guy painting with his p*n*s) should be linked to from a main page (imagine some 8-year-old clicks on it (many will, no doubt), and encounters this file). Note: I'm not saying the article itself should be censored, just that maybe it shouldn't really be on the main page. King Jakob C2 01:47, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Youtube is not the source, the source is Metropolis TV, which is reliable, it's just that it's a video source. WP:CENSORMAIN is not relevant here, due to there not being a distasteful image as part of the hook, and the article is about an artist, who just happens to paint with his penis. I have NO DOUBT that if this article is made the lead hook that it could possibly be one of the highest viewed DYKS of all time. I'll report back in a day or two on progress, as I am still adding information, etc to the article. Russavia (talk) 01:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Supplementary rule D6 states "The article is likely to be rejected for unresolved edit-warring or the presence of dispute tags. (Removing the tags without consensus does not count.)" Once the history is restored, it will be clear that there has been edit warring and protection of this article in its recent past. The Jimbo issue is not resolved (though I am pleased that the suggested image is not the Jimbo portrait). Russavia is likely to face further sanction, to judge from NYB's talk page, and this article will not be stable for a while. This nomination should not be approved until the furore over Jimbo's image, the commons deletion debate, and the controversy over NYB's and Russavia's actions are all resolved, and then the article has time to stabilise. EdChem (talk) 04:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- I have begun a thread at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Pricasso. Comment is invited. EdChem (talk) 04:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Russavia, did you at any point in your correspondence with the artist promise him with (or strongly hint at) an appearance of his article on the main page, perhaps in exchange for the creation of freely licensed media? --Conti User talk:Conti 12:39, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Before reading the source, I thought he painted paintings with a little something added to the picture... I did not think that he would actually smear paint on those parts. But I have to admit, it's very well-written. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just to notify you all at DYK: Russavia has just been indeffed by User:Spartaz and there's now a discussion on WP:ANI. —Tom Morris (talk) 14:01, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
