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{{*mp}}'''ALT3''': ... that '''[[John Young (baseball)|John Young]]''' founded '''[[Reviving Baseball in Inner Cities]]''' in 1989 as a response to declining [[African-American]] participation in baseball?
 
{{*mp}}'''ALT3''': ... that '''[[John Young (baseball)|John Young]]''' founded '''[[Reviving Baseball in Inner Cities]]''' in 1989 as a response to declining [[African-American]] participation in baseball?
 
:*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] It doesn't seem accurate based on the sources in the article that RBI was a response to declining participation.  First of all, the numbers from your article state a drop from 1995 to 2013, so we can't conclude that a 1986 program years earlier was a response to that decline. [http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-22/sports/sp-208_1_baseball-program The LA Times article] only says Young pointed to a high number drafted from 4-year colleges, and a low percentage of blacks in four-year colleges.  It doesnt corroborate that there was definitively a drop in participation among blacks.  My suggestion is to either find additional sources that support the hook, or cleanup the article and come up with a different hook.—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 02:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 
:*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] It doesn't seem accurate based on the sources in the article that RBI was a response to declining participation.  First of all, the numbers from your article state a drop from 1995 to 2013, so we can't conclude that a 1986 program years earlier was a response to that decline. [http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-22/sports/sp-208_1_baseball-program The LA Times article] only says Young pointed to a high number drafted from 4-year colleges, and a low percentage of blacks in four-year colleges.  It doesnt corroborate that there was definitively a drop in participation among blacks.  My suggestion is to either find additional sources that support the hook, or cleanup the article and come up with a different hook.—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 02:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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::*That's what's sourced about the continuing decline. RBI alone hasn't been sufficient to fix it. The LA Times article above does talk about little leagues in inner cities shutting down. [http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080224&content_id=2387908&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb This source] says that Young "noticed a massive decrease in African-American ballplayers coming out of Los Angeles" – [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 21:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 
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Reviving Baseball in Inner Cities‎

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self nominated at 00:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The response took place decades ago, so it would sound better written in the past tense. I would suggest providing a citation for the year the organization was founded, and then saying "... program was founded in 1989 in response ..." Also "African American" should be hyphenated (see MOS:HYPHEN) since it is an adjective. QPQ is outstanding as well.—Bagumba (talk) 02:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I like it better as a a noun. QPQ coming soon. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It doesn't seem accurate based on the sources in the article that RBI was a response to declining participation. First of all, the numbers from your article state a drop from 1995 to 2013, so we can't conclude that a 1986 program years earlier was a response to that decline. The LA Times article only says Young pointed to a high number drafted from 4-year colleges, and a low percentage of blacks in four-year colleges. It doesnt corroborate that there was definitively a drop in participation among blacks. My suggestion is to either find additional sources that support the hook, or cleanup the article and come up with a different hook.—Bagumba (talk) 02:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
  • That's what's sourced about the continuing decline. RBI alone hasn't been sufficient to fix it. The LA Times article above does talk about little leagues in inner cities shutting down. This source says that Young "noticed a massive decrease in African-American ballplayers coming out of Los Angeles" – Muboshgu (talk) 21:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)