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The result was: '''promoted''' by <font color="#00ACF4">'''[[User:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:cambria; font-size:10pt; color:gray">Rcsprinter</span>]]''' [[User talk:Rcsprinter123|<span style="font-family:calibri; font-size:8pt; color:black">(gossip)</span>]]</font> 15:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)<br />}}
 
====Roger Bresnahan====
 
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[[File:Roger Bresnahan, St. Louis, NL (baseball) (LOC).jpg|100x100px|Roger Bresnahan]]
 
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</div>{{*mp}}... that '''[[Roger Bresnahan]]''' pioneered the use of [[shin guards]] in baseball, debuting them on [[Opening Day]] in 1907?
 
</div>{{*mp}}... that '''[[Roger Bresnahan]]''' pioneered the use of [[shin guards]] in baseball, debuting them on [[Opening Day]] in 1907?
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:*''Comment'': I'd like this to go in the special occasions holding area for [[Opening Day]] (April 5).
 
:*''Comment'': I'd like this to go in the special occasions holding area for [[Opening Day]] (April 5).
 
:*'''ALT1''': ... that '''[[Roger Bresnahan]]''' debuted [[shin guards]] in baseball on [[Opening Day]] in 1907, a game which the [[History of the New York Giants (NL)|New York Giants]] forfeited?
 
:*'''ALT1''': ... that '''[[Roger Bresnahan]]''' debuted [[shin guards]] in baseball on [[Opening Day]] in 1907, a game which the [[History of the New York Giants (NL)|New York Giants]] forfeited?
 
<small>Created/expanded  by [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu|talk]]).  Self nom at 21:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
 
<small>Created/expanded  by [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu|talk]]).  Self nom at 21:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)</small>
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:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Great article! Expansion is technically less than 5X (2200 to 10400), but given the length and quality of the article that should not be an issue.  I am quite sure that the offline reference does indeed state Bresnahan was the first.  However, it apparently is not technically true: [http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/6873350/uni-watch-gives-truth-top-10-uniform-logo-myths].  Evens so, the original hook is OK because "pioneered" does not necessarily mean was the first ever - and Bresnahan's adaptation was the even that made shin guard use spread.  ("baseball" should be changed to "[[Major League Baseball]]" though).
 
:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Great article! Expansion is technically less than 5X (2200 to 10400), but given the length and quality of the article that should not be an issue.  I am quite sure that the offline reference does indeed state Bresnahan was the first.  However, it apparently is not technically true: [http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/6873350/uni-watch-gives-truth-top-10-uniform-logo-myths].  Evens so, the original hook is OK because "pioneered" does not necessarily mean was the first ever - and Bresnahan's adaptation was the even that made shin guard use spread.  ("baseball" should be changed to "[[Major League Baseball]]" though).
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::::::I like ALT3 better than any of the other alternatives. It's clear, concise and comprehensive. Thanks Moswento. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 17:01, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::I like ALT3 better than any of the other alternatives. It's clear, concise and comprehensive. Thanks Moswento. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 17:01, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] In which case, this is good to go with ALT3. Good work. '''''[[User:Moswento|Moswento]]''''' ([[User talk:Moswento|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Moswento|contribs]]) 18:20, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] In which case, this is good to go with ALT3. Good work. '''''[[User:Moswento|Moswento]]''''' ([[User talk:Moswento|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Moswento|contribs]]) 18:20, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rcsprinter (gossip) 15:05, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Roger Bresnahan

Roger Bresnahan

Created/expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Great article! Expansion is technically less than 5X (2200 to 10400), but given the length and quality of the article that should not be an issue. I am quite sure that the offline reference does indeed state Bresnahan was the first. However, it apparently is not technically true: [1]. Evens so, the original hook is OK because "pioneered" does not necessarily mean was the first ever - and Bresnahan's adaptation was the even that made shin guard use spread. ("baseball" should be changed to "Major League Baseball" though).
Having said all that, I would prefer to get the snow throwing in there because to me that is the most interesting part:
ALT2: ... that when Roger Bresnahan adopted the use of shin guards in Major League Baseball on Opening Day in 1907 angry fans threw snow onto the field, causing the New York Giants to forfeit the game?
Downside is that the new hook is 187 characters, so I'll ask for other opinions. I do support holding the article until Opening Day. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. I'm open to suggestions on the hook. I'm not sure what is best. I will add some more to the article to clarify his place in the use of shin guards, as mentioned on the article's talk page, and that should make it a clean 5x. Also, I added a picture here, I should've included it with the initial nomination. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I changed the "New York Giants" link to direct to History of the New York Giants (NL). IMHO, that article is more relevant to Bresnahan than the article on today's franchise in San Francisco. — Dale Arnett (talk) 20:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
A shorter hook suggestion:
ALT3: ... that when Roger Bresnahan adopted the use of shin guards in Major League Baseball on Opening Day in 1907, angry fans threw snow onto the field? Moswento (talk | contribs) 09:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I like ALT3 better than any of the other alternatives. It's clear, concise and comprehensive. Thanks Moswento. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:01, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg In which case, this is good to go with ALT3. Good work. Moswento (talk | contribs) 18:20, 6 March 2012 (UTC)