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* ... <s>that '''''[[Sunrise, Inverness Copse]]''''' was one of "fifty drawings of muddy places"?</s> <small>Source: [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cpNPAAAAMAAJ] (page 30){{·}}[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7_2RAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA417]</small> | * ... <s>that '''''[[Sunrise, Inverness Copse]]''''' was one of "fifty drawings of muddy places"?</s> <small>Source: [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cpNPAAAAMAAJ] (page 30){{·}}[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7_2RAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA417]</small> | ||
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:* ''Comment'': As this was [[Template:POTD/2020-01-16|featured recently at POTD]], I would understand if the picture was not used for the DYK, but I've included it here in case approvers want to use it. I asked whether running a previous POTD was permitted under DYK rules, and was told [[Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Eligibility_of_DYKs_that_have_appeared_as_POTD|here]] that it was not against the rules. | :* ''Comment'': As this was [[Template:POTD/2020-01-16|featured recently at POTD]], I would understand if the picture was not used for the DYK, but I've included it here in case approvers want to use it. I asked whether running a previous POTD was permitted under DYK rules, and was told [[Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Eligibility_of_DYKs_that_have_appeared_as_POTD|here]] that it was not against the rules. | ||
<small>Created by [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]). Self-nominated at 20:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC).</small> | <small>Created by [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]). Self-nominated at 20:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC).</small> | ||
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:* start review. [[User:Zeete|Zeete]] ([[User talk:Zeete|talk]]) 12:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC) | :* start review. [[User:Zeete|Zeete]] ([[User talk:Zeete|talk]]) 12:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
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:::* {{Ping|User:Amakuru}} Thanks for the details, that helped me understand the issue. | :::* {{Ping|User:Amakuru}} Thanks for the details, that helped me understand the issue. | ||
:::* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Good to go with ALT1. Thanks, [[User:Zeete|Zeete]] ([[User talk:Zeete|talk]]) 12:13, 1 February 2020 (UTC) | :::* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Good to go with ALT1. Thanks, [[User:Zeete|Zeete]] ([[User talk:Zeete|talk]]) 12:13, 1 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
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Latest revision as of 19:39, 1 February 2020
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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Sunrise, Inverness Copse
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that Sunrise, Inverness Copse was one of "fifty drawings of muddy places"?Source: [1] (page 30) · [2]
- Reviewed: V. S. Lelchuk
- Comment: As this was featured recently at POTD, I would understand if the picture was not used for the DYK, but I've included it here in case approvers want to use it. I asked whether running a previous POTD was permitted under DYK rules, and was told here that it was not against the rules.
Created by Amakuru (talk). Self-nominated at 20:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC).
- start review. Zeete (talk) 12:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- New, long enough (per DYK check, 2335, but copied about 600 from Template:POTD/2020-01-16, net result about 1750), cited, neutral, Earwig reports violation unlikely 9.9%, QPQ done
- hook neutral, but could not read page 30 in first reference, and page 417 in second reference states "he made fifty drawings of 'muddy places on the Front' ..."
Template:Ping Hook could be more interesting, consider adding artist and war info, location, desolation. Article and hook does not exactly match page 417 reference. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping thanks for the review, I'm sorry for taking so long to get respond to your query. How about something along the lines of:
- ALT1:... that Paul Nash's World War I drawing Sunrise, Inverness Copse was one of what he described as "fifty drawings of muddy places on the Front"?
- Regards — Amakuru (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Template:Ping Thanks. ALT1 is better. Struck original hook. Some questions:
- Should "of" be added before "what"? should the quote start before muddy rather than fifty as in the page 417 reference? should "fifty drawings" then replace "what"?
- Also, article should be updated to match quote in reference.
- Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping yes. I've inserted "of". As for the quote, it seems to vary from source to source. If you look at this GBooks search you can see that many call it exactly "fifty drawings of muddy places", while others don't quote the fifty but say they were "drawings of muddy places on the Front". The primary source for the quote appears to be Nash's 1949 book, Outline, an Autobiography: And Other Writings which is not available in any form online, but I may be able to go and look at in the British library on Tuesday if it's important to get this right. I suspect we'll find that he actually wrote the entire phrase "fifty drawings of muddy places on the Front", or something similar, in that book. I've also expanded the quote in the article similarly. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 11:53, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping Thanks for the details, that helped me understand the issue.
Good to go with ALT1. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:13, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping yes. I've inserted "of". As for the quote, it seems to vary from source to source. If you look at this GBooks search you can see that many call it exactly "fifty drawings of muddy places", while others don't quote the fifty but say they were "drawings of muddy places on the Front". The primary source for the quote appears to be Nash's 1949 book, Outline, an Autobiography: And Other Writings which is not available in any form online, but I may be able to go and look at in the British library on Tuesday if it's important to get this right. I suspect we'll find that he actually wrote the entire phrase "fifty drawings of muddy places on the Front", or something similar, in that book. I've also expanded the quote in the article similarly. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 11:53, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Ping thanks for the review, I'm sorry for taking so long to get respond to your query. How about something along the lines of:
