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The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 06:13, 5 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
 
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====Typhoon Cary (1987)====
 
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* ... that the final mission from the [[54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron]] was flown into '''[[Typhoon Cary (1987)|Typhoon Cary]]'''...?  <small>Source: [http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/atcr/1987atcr.pdf JTWC]</small>
 
* ... that the final mission from the [[54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron]] was flown into '''[[Typhoon Cary (1987)|Typhoon Cary]]'''...?  <small>Source: [http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/atcr/1987atcr.pdf JTWC]</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Typhoon Cary (1987)|Typhoon Cary]]''' took an almost identical track to [[Typhoon Betty (1987)|Typhoon Betty]] a week later...?  <small>Source: [http://www.hko.gov.hk/publica/tc/tc1987.pdf HKO]</small>
 
** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Typhoon Cary (1987)|Typhoon Cary]]''' took an almost identical track to [[Typhoon Betty (1987)|Typhoon Betty]] a week later...?  <small>Source: [http://www.hko.gov.hk/publica/tc/tc1987.pdf HKO]</small>
 
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<small>Created by [[User:Yellow Evan|Yellow Evan]] ([[User talk:Yellow Evan|talk]]). Self-nominated at 05:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC).</small>
 
<small>Created by [[User:Yellow Evan|Yellow Evan]] ([[User talk:Yellow Evan|talk]]). Self-nominated at 05:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC).</small>
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:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] The article is long enough, new enough, and within policy. QPQ is done and the hooks are interesting. The problem with the hooks is that they seem a bit fuzzy in their verification. ALT0 says that this typhoon was the last mission for the 54th WRS. I see that the 54th WRS deactivated on 1 October 1987 ([http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/atcr/1987atcr.pdf p. 7 of this ref]), but doesn't that leave a couple of months they could have been running missions (as Cary was in August and several storms followed before October)? If you have a more precise citation and page, that would help. The second hook (ALT 1) has a similar issue. I don't see "almost identical track" spelled out. Sure, they have similar-looking paths on the map (I'm not a meteorologist), but those changes in landfall probably made a big difference to the residents of [[Luzon]] and [[Hainan]]. [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] ([[User talk:IronGargoyle|talk]]) 22:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] The article is long enough, new enough, and within policy. QPQ is done and the hooks are interesting. The problem with the hooks is that they seem a bit fuzzy in their verification. ALT0 says that this typhoon was the last mission for the 54th WRS. I see that the 54th WRS deactivated on 1 October 1987 ([http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/atcr/1987atcr.pdf p. 7 of this ref]), but doesn't that leave a couple of months they could have been running missions (as Cary was in August and several storms followed before October)? If you have a more precise citation and page, that would help. The second hook (ALT 1) has a similar issue. I don't see "almost identical track" spelled out. Sure, they have similar-looking paths on the map (I'm not a meteorologist), but those changes in landfall probably made a big difference to the residents of [[Luzon]] and [[Hainan]]. [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] ([[User talk:IronGargoyle|talk]]) 22:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:::Follow-up on ALT 1: I did (kind of) verify this fact on p. 12 "almost identical tracks for ''a period of their lifetime''" (emphasis mine). So, if you add in a similar qualification, I think that hook would be OK (the final mission fact should still be fixed within the body of the article if you decide to go with ALT1 though). [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] ([[User talk:IronGargoyle|talk]]) 22:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:::Follow-up on ALT 1: I did (kind of) verify this fact on p. 12 "almost identical tracks for ''a period of their lifetime''" (emphasis mine). So, if you add in a similar qualification, I think that hook would be OK (the final mission fact should still be fixed within the body of the article if you decide to go with ALT1 though). [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] ([[User talk:IronGargoyle|talk]]) 22:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:::::On page 19, it mentions that the final mission was flown into Cary. [[User:Yellow Evan|Y]][[User talk:Yellow Evan|E]] <font color="#66666"><sup>[[2017 PHS|Pacific]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Yellow Evan|<sup>Hurricane</sup></font>]] 22:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 
:::::On page 19, it mentions that the final mission was flown into Cary. [[User:Yellow Evan|Y]][[User talk:Yellow Evan|E]] <font color="#66666"><sup>[[2017 PHS|Pacific]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Yellow Evan|<sup>Hurricane</sup></font>]] 22:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
::::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you! The main hook (ALT0) is good to go then. [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] ([[User talk:IronGargoyle|talk]]) 22:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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::::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Thank you! The main hook (ALT0) is good to go then. [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] ([[User talk:IronGargoyle|talk]]) 22:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)</div></noinclude><!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:13, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Typhoon Cary (1987)

Created by Yellow Evan (talk). Self-nominated at 05:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is long enough, new enough, and within policy. QPQ is done and the hooks are interesting. The problem with the hooks is that they seem a bit fuzzy in their verification. ALT0 says that this typhoon was the last mission for the 54th WRS. I see that the 54th WRS deactivated on 1 October 1987 (p. 7 of this ref), but doesn't that leave a couple of months they could have been running missions (as Cary was in August and several storms followed before October)? If you have a more precise citation and page, that would help. The second hook (ALT 1) has a similar issue. I don't see "almost identical track" spelled out. Sure, they have similar-looking paths on the map (I'm not a meteorologist), but those changes in landfall probably made a big difference to the residents of Luzon and Hainan. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Follow-up on ALT 1: I did (kind of) verify this fact on p. 12 "almost identical tracks for a period of their lifetime" (emphasis mine). So, if you add in a similar qualification, I think that hook would be OK (the final mission fact should still be fixed within the body of the article if you decide to go with ALT1 though). IronGargoyle (talk) 22:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
On page 19, it mentions that the final mission was flown into Cary. YE Pacific Hurricane 22:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you! The main hook (ALT0) is good to go then. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)