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<small>Created by [[User:Jisoo-U|Jisoo-U]] ([[User talk:Jisoo-U|talk]]) and [[User:Oh Joonseok|Oh Joonseok]] ([[User talk:Oh Joonseok|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Jisoo-U|Jisoo-U]] ([[User talk:Jisoo-U|talk]]) at 03:49, 22 November 2016 (UTC).</small> | <small>Created by [[User:Jisoo-U|Jisoo-U]] ([[User talk:Jisoo-U|talk]]) and [[User:Oh Joonseok|Oh Joonseok]] ([[User talk:Oh Joonseok|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Jisoo-U|Jisoo-U]] ([[User talk:Jisoo-U|talk]]) at 03:49, 22 November 2016 (UTC).</small> | ||
− | :* [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] With appreciation to [[User:Jisoo-U]] and [[User:Oh Joonseok]]'s effort in creating a new page, this article is still completely unready. The article has no English-language sources, which should be corrected where possible. ([http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/184269.html Here's a 2007 article on the plans for its deployment].) The spelling and grammar are so bad that ''the page itself'' is currently at the wrong location: It [http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2012/07/02/60/0301000000AEN20120702002000315F.HTML might] need to go at Dongmyeong Unit but that source is using "unit" as a common noun; it's possible that it should be Dongmyeong [http://www.providingforpeacekeeping.org/2015/03/30/peacekeeping-contributor-profile-south-korea/ Division], Brigade, Battalion, &c. It might also be "Dong-myung" more often in English: you need to look at what is more common in English and what (if anything) is official according to the South Korean army. Once that's addressed, there are formatting issues with the Korean text, {{abbr|improved translations|In particular, there are several quotes which have been turned from English or Arabic into Korean and then (badly) into English; Ban Ki-moon's quote was probably originally in Korean but still needs to be turned into actual English.}}, and copy editing that should happen before this moves on.<br><br>Now, if that happens, I'll note that it's old but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unit_Dongmyeong&offset=&limit=500&action=history it moved into mainspace on the day of submission]; it's long enough (~5.5k elig. chars.); it's mostly well done but there are some {{sc|[[wp:tone]]}} problems (South Korea is not a "superpower" in any way, shape, or form) and sourcing problems (e.g., a caption claims one photo shows members of the unit after receiving a "peace medal" with no links or citations); [http://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Unit_Dongmyeong&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 no copyvio issues] per Earwig; no QPQ needed {{linktext|afaict}}.<br><br>I've fixed the hook and caption. If you two need any help with the article, you can try asking at the {{sc|[[wp:helpdesk]]}}, the {{sc|[[wp:referencedesk]]}}, or {{sc|[[wp:teahouse]]}}. There are probably some translators hanging around there. For specifics, you could also try [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Korea|{{sc|wp:korea}}]] or talk to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Korea_Army&offset=&limit=500&action=history frequent editors] of the [[Republic of Korea Army]] article to make sure you get the right military terms and links. — [[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn< | + | :* [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] With appreciation to [[User:Jisoo-U]] and [[User:Oh Joonseok]]'s effort in creating a new page, this article is still completely unready. The article has no English-language sources, which should be corrected where possible. ([http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/184269.html Here's a 2007 article on the plans for its deployment].) The spelling and grammar are so bad that ''the page itself'' is currently at the wrong location: It [http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2012/07/02/60/0301000000AEN20120702002000315F.HTML might] need to go at Dongmyeong Unit but that source is using "unit" as a common noun; it's possible that it should be Dongmyeong [http://www.providingforpeacekeeping.org/2015/03/30/peacekeeping-contributor-profile-south-korea/ Division], Brigade, Battalion, &c. It might also be "Dong-myung" more often in English: you need to look at what is more common in English and what (if anything) is official according to the South Korean army. Once that's addressed, there are formatting issues with the Korean text, {{abbr|improved translations|In particular, there are several quotes which have been turned from English or Arabic into Korean and then (badly) into English; Ban Ki-moon's quote was probably originally in Korean but still needs to be turned into actual English.}}, and copy editing that should happen before this moves on.<br /><br />Now, if that happens, I'll note that it's old but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unit_Dongmyeong&offset=&limit=500&action=history it moved into mainspace on the day of submission]; it's long enough (~5.5k elig. chars.); it's mostly well done but there are some {{sc|[[wp:tone]]}} problems (South Korea is not a "superpower" in any way, shape, or form) and sourcing problems (e.g., a caption claims one photo shows members of the unit after receiving a "peace medal" with no links or citations); [http://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Unit_Dongmyeong&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 no copyvio issues] per Earwig; no QPQ needed {{linktext|afaict}}.<br /><br />I've fixed the hook and caption. If you two need any help with the article, you can try asking at the {{sc|[[wp:helpdesk]]}}, the {{sc|[[wp:referencedesk]]}}, or {{sc|[[wp:teahouse]]}}. There are probably some translators hanging around there. For specifics, you could also try [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Korea|{{sc|wp:korea}}]] or talk to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Korea_Army&offset=&limit=500&action=history frequent editors] of the [[Republic of Korea Army]] article to make sure you get the right military terms and links. — [[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color:Gold;">II</span></span>]] 00:31, 16 December 2016 (UTC) |
:::Thank you for the review. I've moved the article to Dongmyeong Unit per [[Talk:Dongmyeong_Unit#Name]]. I've updated the hook too. Regarding other issues, let's see if the students respond (I don't have time to fix other issues now, I am afraid). --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 10:14, 18 December 2016 (UTC) | :::Thank you for the review. I've moved the article to Dongmyeong Unit per [[Talk:Dongmyeong_Unit#Name]]. I've updated the hook too. Regarding other issues, let's see if the students respond (I don't have time to fix other issues now, I am afraid). --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 10:14, 18 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
− | :::: Oh, it's definitely better to ''have'' the article than not and apologies that this review process is more about pointing out remaining problems than praising the hard work it already shows. [[User:Jisoo-U|Thank]] [[User:Oh Joonseok|them]] and, assuming they're your students, thank [[User:Piotrus|you]] for directing their efforts to useful additions here instead of make-work projects for their school. Having the article at the wrong name is major for us but shouldn't be graded harshly: military terminology is pretty specialized and not terribly useful in daily life. — [[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn< | + | :::: Oh, it's definitely better to ''have'' the article than not and apologies that this review process is more about pointing out remaining problems than praising the hard work it already shows. [[User:Jisoo-U|Thank]] [[User:Oh Joonseok|them]] and, assuming they're your students, thank [[User:Piotrus|you]] for directing their efforts to useful additions here instead of make-work projects for their school. Having the article at the wrong name is major for us but shouldn't be graded harshly: military terminology is pretty specialized and not terribly useful in daily life. — [[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Llywelyn<span style="color:Gold;">II</span></span>]] 04:49, 19 December 2016 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 01:33, 3 June 2020
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 04:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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Unit Dongmyeong
- ... that Dongmyeong Unit is a South Korean peacekeeping force that has been in Lebanon for almost a decade?
Created by Jisoo-U (talk) and Oh Joonseok (talk). Nominated by Jisoo-U (talk) at 03:49, 22 November 2016 (UTC).
With appreciation to User:Jisoo-U and User:Oh Joonseok's effort in creating a new page, this article is still completely unready. The article has no English-language sources, which should be corrected where possible. (Here's a 2007 article on the plans for its deployment.) The spelling and grammar are so bad that the page itself is currently at the wrong location: It might need to go at Dongmyeong Unit but that source is using "unit" as a common noun; it's possible that it should be Dongmyeong Division, Brigade, Battalion, &c. It might also be "Dong-myung" more often in English: you need to look at what is more common in English and what (if anything) is official according to the South Korean army. Once that's addressed, there are formatting issues with the Korean text, improved translations, and copy editing that should happen before this moves on.
Now, if that happens, I'll note that it's old but it moved into mainspace on the day of submission; it's long enough (~5.5k elig. chars.); it's mostly well done but there are some Template:Sc problems (South Korea is not a "superpower" in any way, shape, or form) and sourcing problems (e.g., a caption claims one photo shows members of the unit after receiving a "peace medal" with no links or citations); no copyvio issues per Earwig; no QPQ needed afaict.
I've fixed the hook and caption. If you two need any help with the article, you can try asking at the Template:Sc, the Template:Sc, or Template:Sc. There are probably some translators hanging around there. For specifics, you could also try [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Korea|Template:Sc]] or talk to frequent editors of the Republic of Korea Army article to make sure you get the right military terms and links. — LlywelynII 00:31, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I've moved the article to Dongmyeong Unit per Talk:Dongmyeong_Unit#Name. I've updated the hook too. Regarding other issues, let's see if the students respond (I don't have time to fix other issues now, I am afraid). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:14, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, it's definitely better to have the article than not and apologies that this review process is more about pointing out remaining problems than praising the hard work it already shows. Thank them and, assuming they're your students, thank you for directing their efforts to useful additions here instead of make-work projects for their school. Having the article at the wrong name is major for us but shouldn't be graded harshly: military terminology is pretty specialized and not terribly useful in daily life. — LlywelynII 04:49, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I've moved the article to Dongmyeong Unit per Talk:Dongmyeong_Unit#Name. I've updated the hook too. Regarding other issues, let's see if the students respond (I don't have time to fix other issues now, I am afraid). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:14, 18 December 2016 (UTC)