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:* {{comment}} I've added '''Alt1''' which is reliably sourced by a newspaper clipping, albeit printed in Latvian. The other hook is problematic, because some sources indicate that Kletnieks remained in Latvia after the execution of Goppers until 1944. <i><b><small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:JGHowes|<span style="color:white;background:#008000;">&nbsp;JGHowes&nbsp; </span>]]</span></small><span style="color: blue;"> <sup>[[User talk:JGHowes|''talk'']]</sup></span></b></i> 01:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:* {{comment}} I've added '''Alt1''' which is reliably sourced by a newspaper clipping, albeit printed in Latvian. The other hook is problematic, because some sources indicate that Kletnieks remained in Latvia after the execution of Goppers until 1944. <i><b><small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:JGHowes|<span style="color:white;background:#008000;">&nbsp;JGHowes&nbsp; </span>]]</span></small><span style="color: blue;"> <sup>[[User talk:JGHowes|''talk'']]</sup></span></b></i> 01:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::*I'd say ALT1 is also problematic, both because the source seemingly doesn't mention burning (it says 'destroy' from what I gather, notably the burning of literature has a specific historical connotation. In this case, regardless of how the books were destroyed and in what quantities, it would presumably not have been as a public ritual) and secondly because just saying 'the communists' is quite ambiguous. Who were the ones carrying out the action? Soviet military forces? NKVD? The Latvian Communist Party? --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 21:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 
::*I'd say ALT1 is also problematic, both because the source seemingly doesn't mention burning (it says 'destroy' from what I gather, notably the burning of literature has a specific historical connotation. In this case, regardless of how the books were destroyed and in what quantities, it would presumably not have been as a public ritual) and secondly because just saying 'the communists' is quite ambiguous. Who were the ones carrying out the action? Soviet military forces? NKVD? The Latvian Communist Party? --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 21:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
:::*{{U|Soman}}, Thanks for noting the apparent mis-translation. I've changed the article and Alt1 hook to "destroyed". The cited newspaper article simply says "komunisti", without further specifying. <i><b><small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:JGHowes|<span style="color:white;background:#008000;">&nbsp;JGHowes&nbsp; </span>]]</span></small><span style="color: blue;"> <sup>[[User talk:JGHowes|''talk'']]</sup></span></b></i> 23:15, 27 August 2020 (UTC)  
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:::*{{U|Soman}}, Thanks for noting the apparent mis-translation. I've changed the article and Alt1 hook to "destroyed". The cited newspaper article simply says "komunisti", without further specifying. In any case, the repression was certainly at the behest of Soviet authorities, as [https://www.president.lv/storage/kcfinder/files/item_1619_Vesturnieku_komisijas_raksti_14_sejums.pdf this study] states, viz., page 311 (which I've now cited in this article as well as [[Karlis Goppers]]). <i><b><small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:JGHowes|<span style="color:white;background:#008000;">&nbsp;JGHowes&nbsp; </span>]]</span></small><span style="color: blue;"> <sup>[[User talk:JGHowes|''talk'']]</sup></span></b></i> 23:15, 27 August 2020 (UTC)  
  
 
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Valdemārs Klētnieks

Created by JGHowes (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 18:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC).

  •  Comment: I've added Alt1 which is reliably sourced by a newspaper clipping, albeit printed in Latvian. The other hook is problematic, because some sources indicate that Kletnieks remained in Latvia after the execution of Goppers until 1944.  JGHowes  talk 01:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
  • I'd say ALT1 is also problematic, both because the source seemingly doesn't mention burning (it says 'destroy' from what I gather, notably the burning of literature has a specific historical connotation. In this case, regardless of how the books were destroyed and in what quantities, it would presumably not have been as a public ritual) and secondly because just saying 'the communists' is quite ambiguous. Who were the ones carrying out the action? Soviet military forces? NKVD? The Latvian Communist Party? --Soman (talk) 21:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Template:U, Thanks for noting the apparent mis-translation. I've changed the article and Alt1 hook to "destroyed". The cited newspaper article simply says "komunisti", without further specifying. In any case, the repression was certainly at the behest of Soviet authorities, as this study states, viz., page 311 (which I've now cited in this article as well as Karlis Goppers).  JGHowes  talk 23:15, 27 August 2020 (UTC)